Delta decision due today or tomorrow

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Also, they may want to allow DCI to have 100 seaters, but it AINT gonna happen. Dalpa would not allow that---nope. They would renegotiate a lower pay rate before giving it to DCI. Sorry, but that is the truth......

Bye Bye----General Lee

General Lee is correct on this one. But the FACT that Skip Barnette and others are talking about it simply throws fuel on the fire of the RJDC's litigation. Delta management is proving up the RJDC's damages arguement....

It certainly isn't part of Delta's plan, but in concert with Duane Woerth's statements and actions on the US Air property, this is becoming a slam dunk DFR case.

 

[46Driver]

The outcomes that make the most sense for the DOJets is

(1) ground them
(2) give them to Skyway (Midwest Connect)
(3) find some excuse to cancel the ACA contract and leave the aircraft with ACA

You missed number 4. Maintain ACA's status quo with Delta.

 

[wms]

But the FACT that Skip Barnette and others are talking about it simply throws fuel on the fire of the RJDC's litigation.

There is no substance in it. It's just another attempt of ASA mgmt trying to throw the pilot group off balance, and DCI trying to find a hot button issue to use as a whip saw between the DAL and DCI pilot groups. Fortunately, the MECs are communicating and working together to solve problems inspite of the interference of the company and the RJDC.

 

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There is no substance in it. It's just another attempt of ASA mgmt trying to throw the pilot group off balance, and DCI trying to find a hot button issue to use as a whip saw between the DAL and DCI pilot groups. Fortunately, the MECs are communicating and working together to solve problems inspite of the interference of the company and the RJDC.

Well, not really.

If the RJDC were to win, the "Regional's" MEC's would gain the power to properly represent their pilots. So even if the local MEC does not care for the RJDC, the effect of the RJDC litigation is that ALPA tends to be much more careful when ALPA is fully aware that their actions are going to be reviewed by a judge.

One effect of the RJDC litigation is that it restrains and limits the more predatory inclinations of ALPA, under mainline's control.

If you look around the industry, everyone has a jets for jobs agreement except for the groups that are suing ALPA, do you think that is a mere coincidence?

ASA and Comair's MEC do want to negotiate with their employer (Delta) and letters have been published to that effect. ALPA said no and put ALPA's position in writing.

If the ASA and Comair MEC's are in the room with the Delta MEC it is a result of the RJDC litigation.... Before the lawsuit the RJDC wanted the MEC's ( our representatives ) to come together and settle the issues. This did not happen because ALPA would not provide a framework to ensure that the ASA and Comair MEC's did not simply get rolled by the dominant Delta MEC. After all, by current ALPA practice, only the Delta MEC can negotiate with our employer....

Sorry if my post is rambling, but regardless of whether they like, or support, each other, the MEC's and the RJDC have the same purpose - to achieve the goal of proper representation of the pilots at ASA and Comair.

 

[PadFull'oTrim]

"while jumpseating on Delta, a senior captain told me..."

HA! I can't believe people say stuff like that.

Must have been information passed along at the 'senior captains only' meeting. That double-super-secret rumor info is hard to come by... good work! good find! must be TRUE! Junior captains apparently don't know much (and let's not even talk about FO's)... but SENIOR captains.... They speak of a rumor and it's as if God said it himself.

"senior captains" and "a reliable source"... those are my favorites.

 

[Lance501]

BLaa---HA HA HA

I mean, yeah, I head that too.......... you know.... about the super secret decoder ring and glasses that allow you to read the invisable ink on the MEC updates page. Man I can't wait to get that 10 year ALPA pin. Thats where its at!!!!

 

[RegionalFA]

"while jumpseating on Delta, a senior captain told me..."

HA! I can't believe people say stuff like that.

Must have been information passed along at the 'senior captains only' meeting. That double-super-secret rumor info is hard to come by... good work! good find! must be TRUE! Junior captains apparently don't know much (and let's not even talk about FO's)... but SENIOR captains.... They speak of a rumor and it's as if God said it himself.

"senior captains" and "a reliable source"... those are my favorites.

That's like when the newhire FA's start talking in the crewroom...

"well, a pilot told me" at that point I zone out.

Well, if a PILOT told you, it MUST be true.

 

[Tim47SIP]

What?

Also, they may want to allow DCI to have 100 seaters, but it AINT gonna happen. Dalpa would not allow that---nope. They would renegotiate a lower pay rate before giving it to DCI. Sorry, but that is the truth......

General, getting a little sensitive here. Where in my post did I even hint that we would get them or even gloated at the possibility. I don't know this guy we had in the jump, but I did say the story was hard to believe. He DID say 1200 more furloughs. He is probably not as informed as you, so that could explain his missunderstanding, which I am sure is a common problem with the senior guys at Delta. You would think that they would be the ones to squash any rediculous rumors like this one. At least he got the 1200 part correct.

Also, if you can remember, a while ago I posted a statement that your old MEC stated about the 100 seaters. He stated that DALPA did not want the aircraft on the property because they would demand to low of a rate. This would cause a problem in lowering the number of high paying jobs by replacing them with these low pay aircraft. Additionally, he stated that there would not be any type of "Mid Atlantic" or seperate group of pilots who would fly these aircraft on the Delta certificate due to the Delta Express fiasco of differnt pay rates in the same seniority list. Now your NEW MEC might have a different view of how to work these aircraft onto your certificate. I DO hope they go to you guys and your furloughs move into them.