Delta connection academy pass benefits

[Sinca3]

This seems like an obvious place to cut cost. I mean they are charging their own employees but allow freaking instructors to have pass cards!!!
These people should be the first to loose their flight passes.....
JMO
Cheers
Sinca

 

[ackattacker]

You gotta be kidding me... CFIs that can non-rev? On which carriers?

 

[cobalt]

i don't think CFI's should have these "pass cards" you speak of either, but tell me, how does this cut cost???

 

[BLing]

Dont some of the homo's wear their uniform when they travel and act like they fly for mainline???

 

[DGdaPilot]

Yeah, how would this cut cost? It's not like they're taking seats from paying passengers. Plus, from what I know, they only make like $10/hour with shitty benefits. Give 'em a break.

 

[RCA]

Anyone that thinks academy guys shouldnt have pass cards is a P.O.S. You shouldnt be jelous of something someone else has. Maybe try looking at the things you have the academy guys dont. And by the way they can travel on any Delta code any where in the world.

 

[wheelsup]

You gotta be kidding me... CFIs that can non-rev? On which carriers?

When I worked for Mesa Pilot Development as a CFI we were issued Mesa badges and could non-rev on any mesa or america west 'mainline' flight and purchase ID90's/70's etc. etc. And no, we didn't have to wear a uniform to instruct there.

~wheelsup

 

[pipers]

Speaking of Delta Academy......

What is going to happen with their "connections" to the airlines now that SkyWest bought ASA and Com Air won't be hiring any time soon...

I have been involved with the hiring process at SkyWest and they have never been too excited about the Academy. In fact, I don't know anyone who has been hired at SkyWest as a result of attendace there. Just a thought.

 

[BLing]

Speaking of Delta Academy......

What is going to happen with their "connections" to the airlines now that SkyWest bought ASA and Com Air won't be hiring any time soon...

I have been involved with the hiring process at SkyWest and they have never been too excited about the Academy. In fact, I don't know anyone who has been hired at SkyWest as a result of attendace there. Just a thought.

They find their way to Regional Airline Acadmeny and work as CFI's. Then they get sold on the fact that a CRJ type rating is going to be their ticket to an airline job. So they sink another $20k into that venture. But they still dont have enough hours to get on with a regional. So then they decide that they have a type rating and their sh!t dont stink and that it would be cooler to teach next round of CRJ type rating students in the sims instead of actually teaching regular students in an actual airplane where they can actually log flight time. So basically they never go anywhere and they kiss a lot of a$$ to get the "recommendation" that they now think they need to get to an airline. Basically they just become tools for the rest of their life! I dont know how I wound up instructing there without ever paying a $100K for my tickets??? GET ME AWAY FROM THIS MESS!

 

[The_Russian]

Jesus,

I lean on my bed tonight and pray that BLing will remove his avitar. I am afraid my eyes will burn out of my head and I will rot away if I see him post again with that mostly nude tater-boy.

Amen

 

[huncowboy]

Dont some of the homo's wear their uniform when they travel and act like they fly for mainline???

Sounds like your life is miserable... love to hear that. I have heard some of you academy haters are in line for a vitamin shot just to get 1h of flight time in a USPS air mail envelope... is that true?

Go f yourself before next time you make a comment about people who you don't know! As a matter of fact go f yourself already!

 

[1973Arrow]

Not a big fan of the academy, but that's my issue.
Don't really have a problem with them non-reving, they're bottom of the list. I think it's a pretty cool benny for them to have.

 

[FN FAL]

Jesus,

I lean on my bed tonight and pray that BLing will remove his avitar. I am afraid my eyes will burn out of my head and I will rot away if I see him post again with that mostly nude tater-boy.

Amen

Come on, admit it! You know you're a camel toad scout from way back.

 

[Bryan D]

Dont some of the homo's wear their uniform when they travel and act like they fly for mainline???

Sounds like your life is miserable... love to hear that. I have heard some of you academy haters are in line for a vitamin shot just to get 1h of flight time in a USPS air mail envelope... is that true?
Go f yourself before next time you make a comment about people who you don't know! As a matter of fact go f yourself already!

It's getting hot in here. Hang on, let me get some popcorn and a coke.

 

[MJ42]

Sounds like your life is miserable... love to hear that. I have heard some of you academy haters are in line for a vitamin shot just to get 1h of flight time in a USPS air mail envelope... is that true?

Go f yourself before next time you make a comment about people who you don't know! As a matter of fact go f yourself already!

Take some advice from a former CFI, military pilot, and current 121 Captain...REMEMBER the word PRIVILEGE thoughout your career, it will get you a lot further than running your mouth! The way things are headed you'll be lucky to end up at a regional. Not going to be too many jobs for the young CFI with all the soon to be newly fuloughed regional pilots. I'll take a furloughed Mesaba or Comair professional over your foul mouth any day! Oh yeah, I've also been furloughed myself and have learned why it's good not to burn bridges!

DCA pilots are lucky to have this privilege, you are always welcome on my aircraft. But I won't hesitate to kick your ass off if you act like a jerk!

 

[Rick James]

Take some advice from a former CFI, military pilot, and current 121 Captain...REMEMBER the word PRIVILEGE thoughout your career, it will get you a lot further than running your mouth! The way things are headed you'll be lucky to end up at a regional. Not going to be too many jobs for the young CFI with all the soon to be newly fuloughed regional pilots. I'll take a furloughed Mesaba or Comair professional over your foul mouth any day! Oh yeah, I've also been furloughed myself and have learned why it's good not to burn bridges!

DCA pilots are lucky to have this privilege, you are always welcome on my aircraft. But I won't hesitate to kick your ass off if you act like a jerk!

Well put sir. I could'nt have put it better myself.

 

[Sinca3]

Not a big fan of the academy, but that's my issue.
Don't really have a problem with them non-reving, they're bottom of the list. I think it's a pretty cool benny for them to have.

Pretty sure they have the same priority as anyone else with a pass card S2 & S3´s. It cost money to issue the cards and keep them in the system. Otherwise why would Delta be charging their own employees for the priviledge. I do agree that it cost very very little to let them ride though. Just a little extra weight (more fuel) and the cost of a meal (if they are in first/buisness)

 

[Stifler's Mom]

They get paid around $10/hour I bet and only get 2 days off a week...doubt they are going very far for the most part...especially with all there is to do in Sanford anyways.

 

[taters]

Delta Connection Academy is aimed at a zero time person who is completly naive about thier options, it is simply financial sodomy. And I agree with Bling a type rating before you even interview for a 121 job. That is the worst advice I have ever heard as it is not really needed if you have the skills to do well in the interview, which usually occurs in an sim modled after a completely different aircraft anyway.


Assuming the interview is for a regional airline

 

[BLing]

Sounds like your life is miserable... love to hear that. I have heard some of you academy haters are in line for a vitamin shot just to get 1h of flight time in a USPS air mail envelope... is that true?

Go f yourself before next time you make a comment about people who you don't know! As a matter of fact go f yourself already!

Actually, my life is pretty good. I dont have a $100k in debt for my flight training and I am on my way to an airline in a few months. I actually do know a few people from DCA because I happen to instruct at a place with a lot of them working here. If you read my sencond post in this thread, you will see what I mean. Oh, and by the way, I never say anything unless I have the facts and can back it up. Also, you should really watch your mouth!!!

 

[Guitar Guy]

And I agree with Bling a type rating before you even interview for a 121 job is the worst advice I have ever heard considering the airline will pay for it anyway if your worth it.

So what do you think about the guys who get a 737 type before getting an interview with Southwest? Not flame bait, I'm just curious what your take is on that situation.

 

[svcta]

Standing on the sideline it occurs to me.....

Anyone that thinks academy guys shouldnt have pass cards is a P.O.S. You shouldnt be jelous of something someone else has. Maybe try looking at the things you have the academy guys dont. And by the way they can travel on any Delta code any where in the world.

Noone's going to touch this one?

 

[taters]

So what do you think about the guys who get a 737 type before getting an interview with Southwest? Not flame bait, I'm just curious what your take is on that situation.

I agree, in a major airline it is a whole different ball of wax, by that time they expect some pretty firm credentials...my comments were directed at the regional level....I should have been more concise..

 

[svcta]

Stand your ground, taters. Noone should pay for their own type ratings; It's against the natural order of things.

 

[taters]

At the regional level getting a type rating is as waste, at the majors it might look nice if you have a few types under your belt that you WERE ACTUALLY PAID TO USE!!!, but at the regional level give me a break.

 

[MJ42]

Noone's going to touch this one?

svcta,

Just to be clear, my original post is also directed to RCA. He needs to grow up also!

Hope you all realize a type with just a commercial ticket is just about worthless, it's a restricted type! You'll be taking another checkride to get ATP priveliges for the type once you reach ATP mins. Anyone at these places convincing you otherwise is just flat out wrong, they just want your money.

Difference between a 737 type for SWA and an RJ type...you need the type to get the SWA job. Also, it is probably your last stop in your aviation career. Most of us hope that we are not career regional pilots! DO NOT PAY for any RJ type!

 

[svcta]

MJ,
I was poking fun at the kid's whiny "look at all the neat toys you have, I should have them, too" attitude. What a bunch of future welfare whores. Nobody owes you turds anything, kiddies....I earned everything I get and then some. You(not you, MJ, them) have not yet.........that's why you're flight instructing.

And why are you(yes, you, MJ) telling me not to pay for an RJ type; that's what I just said. Direct that comment at someone else.

Paying for your own type to get a job anywhere is an indication of a job that I don't want, anyways. One man's opinion, so I'll leave it at that. This biz. used to be classy......I'm constantly dissapointed in the way we allow management to treat us as professionals anymore.

Where's the unity that existed over the decades that made this the job we wanted? These new kids that have only been in the aviation biz for 90 days before hunting their brass-ring airline job don't understand the way we used to band together and fight for work rules, pay scales, etc.

Listen up kids: this job sucks now because of people who want the quick fix. There are people flying a/c equivilant to 737s and DC9s now for a little over 30/hour.(CR9s and E190s soon) So where does that leave the job we are hoping to step into after the regionals serve our purpose. It renders almost the entire domestic market worthless for us. Management is winning. We all want to fly something bigger for better pay....but flying these "regional jets" (north america is a region now, I guess) as they get bigger for nearly the same pay is not worth the exposure.

Sorry, that was quite a tangent. Uh, roll tide!

 

[svcta]

Somebody buy me a sky belt!

 

[MJ42]

MJ,

And why are you(yes, you, MJ) telling me not to pay for an RJ type; that's what I just said. Direct that comment at someone else.

Paying for your own type to get a job anywhere is an indication of a job that I don't want, anyways. One man's opinion, so I'll leave it at that. This biz. used to be classy......I'm constantly dissapointed in the way we allow management to treat us as professionals anymore.

My 1st sentence was the only thing directed towards your post...meaning...I'll touch that one and respond to this guys misguided post. Sorry for the confusion.

The rest of my post was in response to those who would pay for any RJ type, just hoping they won't waste money giving it to some Academy filling them with lies. It's just like having a commercial SEL but only a private multi, not going to get you too far.

As for the SWA 73 type, I agree with your assessment but if it's a choice between being a career regional pilot or opening a door to an opportunity I'll take the latter. If there was more worthy majors hiring I'd re-think my options.

 

[MJ42]

Somebody buy me a sky belt!

Somebody buy me the chick wearing the sky belt!