Linedriver
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What "possible opportunities" was Anderson speaking of concerning AA bankruptcy?
Assets in a fragmentation of AMR
Fragmentation of AMR? ... I'll take some of what you're smoking ...
I don't know, but there is the "Wings Club" airline exec private club where ideas are floated to each other, just not on airfares. And then there is the Air Transport Association where all airline exec's are members too, I am sure deals are made long before we ever find out.Alaska purchase would cost more than even "Mother Delta" could afford.
I don't know, but there is the "Wings Club" airline exec private club where ideas are floated to each other, just not on airfares. And then there is the Air Transport Association where all airline exec's are members too, I am sure deals are made long before we ever find out.
And money floats, from Wall Street to airlines, as long as Wall Street gets a piece of the pie.
I think it's important to keep in mind that CEO's are cheerleaders. I'm not bashing Delta at all, as that is management at any corporation.
Fragmentation of AMR? ... I'll take some of what you're smoking ...
Andy, Parker cannot keep himself out of the process. Use DAL and his attempt as an example. He has learned and will jump in well before AMR presents their plan. If he is still sitting on the sidelines by the end of Feb, I will be floored. I would expect to see something sooner.
As soon as he acts, the other airlines will jump in and this will go sideways for AMR. Even if the other airlines offer the same value for the debt, they offer better risk.
As to what would work for DAL. MIA, Parts of DFW, gates in LAX and anything in NYC. UAL would love ORD, and LAX gates. LCC wants MIA route authorities.
As to what would work for DAL. MIA, Parts of DFW, gates in LAX and anything in NYC. UAL would love ORD, and LAX gates. LCC wants MIA route authorities.
fam62c and ACL65, I suggest you take a look at the composition of the creditors' committee. Fragmentation? You're smoking crack.
I clearly remember guys like the two of you licking their chops over various UAL fragmentation scenarios when we went through BK. AMR's BK is very different than previous airline BKs because they are self-funding their DIP financing, giving AMR much more control over the process. And 1/3 of the seats on the creditors committee are representatives of AMR's unions. Not to mention that PBGC has a seat on the committee. Fragmentation? Not likely.
AMR will shed nonproductive and marginally productive assets. They may sell off Eagle and dump all of their mad dogs but I doubt that you'll see any routes or newer aircraft being sold off. This is not a distress BK where crown jewels will be sold off; this is one where they need to shed nonproductive assets.
For what it's worth, I have no idea which AMR assets fall in the nonproductive/marginally productive category; I'm merely taking a stab in the dark with respect to Eagle and the mad dogs.
Perhaps the two of you will get the joy of experiencing a BK at your respective airlines and can report first hand which assets you expect to be sold off.
To all at AMR, best of luck to you. Hopefully this won't be much more painful than passing a gallstone. Painful yes, but not amputation as is being suggested by others.