Delta Bases/Seniorty

[IFLYASA]

I'm just curious about the equipment and base that the recall pilots are holding. Is LGA still the junior base? I would imagine the MD-88 is the junior plane. Is anyone holding 737-800? How junior is ATL?

 

[tbkane]

MD88 is junior airplane some are getting ATL. Most are shuttle NY>

 

[800Dog]

I'm just curious about the equipment and base that the recall pilots are holding. Is LGA still the junior base? I would imagine the MD-88 is the junior plane. Is anyone holding 737-800? How junior is ATL?

A friend was recalled in August. MD88 NYC. Received MD88 ATL on latest entitlement and thus far has flown most trips out of ATL since we are so short there. I believe all the recalls as of late have gone to the MD88 but, there are some very jr. folks on the 800 as well.

 

[IFLYASA]

A friend was recalled in August. MD88 NYC. Received MD88 ATL on latest entitlement and thus far has flown most trips out of ATL since we are so short there. I believe all the recalls as of late have gone to the MD88 but, there are some very jr. folks on the 800 as well.

For the 737-800, is ATL the junior base? I take it the 737-200 payscale is gone. Thanks for the info.

 

[800Dog]

For the 737-800, is ATL the junior base? I take it the 737-200 payscale is gone. Thanks for the info.

There are very jr. folks on the 800 in ATL,SLC and NY. Not sure which one would be considered the most jr. 737-200 payscale is gone but, I believe we have a pay rate for the -700 and it pays roughly what the -200 paid. About $10 hr less than the -800.

 

[michael707767]

737-200 payscale is gone but, I believe we have a pay rate for the -700 and it pays roughly what the -200 paid.

it pays exactly what the -200 paid. About 15 less than the 800 for captains, and 10 less for FOs.

 

[GogglesPisano]

So NYC is a junior -800 domicile? I thought it was senior to ATL since it was downsized after the shuttle flying went to the -88.

 

[michael707767]

So NYC is a junior -800 domicile? I thought it was senior to ATL since it was downsized after the shuttle flying went to the -88.

about the same, but NYC is a little more junior by just a few numbers. The junior 800 pilot in NYC was hired Jan 01. Same for the junior 800 pilot in ATL. Just for grins, the junior pilot on the 767 in LAX is a Dec 00 hire.

 

[IFLYASA]

So the juniors guy on reserve are getting a 70 hour gaurantee. Is there anyway to get more than that, like premium, or only by flying more than that. If a line holder is gauranteed 65 hours, what are your lines usually creditited to?

 

[800Dog]

So the juniors guy on reserve are getting a 70 hour gaurantee. Is there anyway to get more than that, like premium, or only by flying more than that. If a line holder is gauranteed 65 hours, what are your lines usually creditited to?

Some of the reserves on the -800 ATL, 75/76ATL and MD88ATL are getting paid 120-130hrs a month by flying greenslips. They are paid at straight pay over the guarantee. They are flying about 80 hours and getting paid 110-130 hours. Don't know how long that will last.

 

[IFLYASA]

Some of the reserves on the -800 ATL, 75/76ATL and MD88ATL are getting paid 120-130hrs a month by flying greenslips. They are paid at straight pay over the guarantee. They are flying about 80 hours and getting paid 110-130 hours. Don't know how long that will last.

WOW. So these greenslips are just open time trips? So a reserve guy can pick up a trip on his off day, and that goes over the 70 hours pay?

 

[800Dog]

WOW. So these greenslips are just open time trips? So a reserve guy can pick up a trip on his off day, and that goes over the 70 hours pay?

Yes. Not enough bodies in ATL on the -800,MD88 and 75/76. Reserves put in a greenslip on their days off, get a trip and that trip pays straight pay over the 70 hr guarantee. They then get payback days, greenslip on those payback days and it just keeps snowballing throughout the month. I know one 757 reserve who was paid 140 hrs several months ago. Again, not sure how much longer this will last.

 

[IFLYASA]

Yes. Not enough bodies in ATL on the -800,MD88 and 75/76. Reserves put in a greenslip on their days off, get a trip and that trip pays straight pay over the 70 hr guarantee. They then get payback days, greenslip on those payback days and it just keeps snowballing throughout the month. I know one 757 reserve who was paid 140 hrs several months ago. Again, not sure how much longer this will last.

Amazing. So is there really any incentive for a lineholder to do this, other than just to get higher block? Makes sense for a reserve trying to make money. What's the minimum days off these reserves can be scheduled to? I couldn't imagine that lasting too much longer either.

 

[Brian]

NEAT-O! It really warms my heart to look at the greenslip report every month and realize that folks that were furloughed themselves are now picking up all the overtime they can get and letting the company operate with fewer pilots when others are still furloughed. It's so........charming. I am very happy to keep getting say...ZERO hours as long as they can get 120 hours to make up for what they lost.

Why do we keep doing it to ourselves???

 

[michael707767]

Amazing. So is there really any incentive for a lineholder to do this, other than just to get higher block? Makes sense for a reserve trying to make money. What's the minimum days off these reserves can be scheduled to? I couldn't imagine that lasting too much longer either.

I know an 88 FO who is in the top ten in the category. For Sept and Oct he bid reserve and did the rolling thunder thing. Ended up with more pay and more time off than with a line. Minimum number of days off in your schedule for reserve is 12 in a 30 day month, 13 in a 31 day month. As far as it lasting, I think it will slow down over the winter, but keep going as we gear up for the spring and summer flying. Big bid coming out in Jan, so it will suck a lot of people up and again the bottom categories will be short staffed.