Delta and JAL

[General Lee]

That is the point. There is potential for a huge upside for DAL and the DAL pilots, but if DALPA is not very very careful, it would have wide reaching implications for the group.

If Lee Moak didn't make sure he protected us with specific language, I would be surprised to say the least. It better have only upside potential. And, there better be something more in it for us, like a more 76 seaters..... oh wait, nevermind.........how about a Compass Staple and a little bit more....


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[ACL65PILOT]

If Lee Moak didn't make sure he protected us with specific language, I would be surprised to say the least. It better have only upside potential. And, there better be something more in it for us, like a more 76 seaters..... oh wait, nevermind.........how about a Compass Staple and a little bit more....


Bye Bye--General Lee

To say the least.

I am sure they are deciding the CPS representational fate today as well.

 

[michael707767]

If Lee Moak didn't make sure he protected us with specific language, I would be surprised to say the least. It better have only upside potential. And, there better be something more in it for us, like a more 76 seaters..... oh wait, nevermind.........how about a Compass Staple and a little bit more....

Yeah, let's count on Moak to do the right thing and protect the Delta pilots.

Moak never drew a line he could not erase.

 

[RedRum]

N.E.R.D. = Northwest Employees Refinancing Delta

I'm glad the 3.7B scooped up by Delta Air Lines is being put to good use. I just don't understand why we can't get our own house in order first. Aren't we in the middle of a merger right now?

Maybe if we stopped hemorrhaging money, this type of news wouldn't sound so strange.

 

[FDJ2]

Anybody read the contract? Section 1.E.?

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Anybody read the contract? Section 1.E.?

Yes, and depending on how the deal is done, there is significant latitude to have this add flying for the DAL pilots.

 

[General Lee]

Yes, and depending on how the deal is done, there is significant latitude to have this add flying for the DAL pilots.

Can you summarize this for me, since I have had a couple brews and you two are sharp as nails........help me out plz.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[ACL65PILOT]

My god lee, it is only 7 on a Friday night. Do not go drive that golf cart around!

Here are some excerpts:

a. more than 50% of the passenger seats in any month on any pair of flight segments in
a city pair (e.g., CDG-ATL-CDG) of such foreign air carrier,

d. passenger seats on any Fifth Freedom flight segment between Japan and Asian cities
beyond Japan, unless 316 weekly NRT slots are scheduled to be utilized in Company
flying.

3. If the Company’s ownership level (i.e., the percentage of ownership referred to in
Section 1 B. 16. a.) in a foreign air carrier exceeds 25%, the Company flying block hours
scheduled in any month between the United States and the country of the foreign air
carrier, will not be less than the Company flying block hours scheduled between the two
countries in the same month of the twelve-month period prior to the month in which the
Company’s ownership level first exceeds 25%.

 

[michael707767]

Anybody read the contract? Section 1.E.?

The contract means nothing when Moak starts talking side letters.

 

[General Lee]

My god lee, it is only 7 on a Friday night. Do not go drive that golf cart around!

Here are some excerpts:

a. more than 50% of the passenger seats in any month on any pair of flight segments in
a city pair (e.g., CDG-ATL-CDG) of such foreign air carrier,

d. passenger seats on any Fifth Freedom flight segment between Japan and Asian cities
beyond Japan, unless 316 weekly NRT slots are scheduled to be utilized in Company
flying.

3. If the Company’s ownership level (i.e., the percentage of ownership referred to in
Section 1 B. 16. a.) in a foreign air carrier exceeds 25%, the Company flying block hours
scheduled in any month between the United States and the country of the foreign air
carrier, will not be less than the Company flying block hours scheduled between the two
countries in the same month of the twelve-month period prior to the month in which the
Company’s ownership level first exceeds 25%.

I live on the North Side, not PTC! Thanks for the info.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

The contract means nothing when Moak starts talking side letters.

No chit! It is sad that we have to watch the company and OUR MEC leader. I love how he let a few extra 76 seaters slip by without getting anything meaningful in return. I don't want them anyway, but can you get even better furlough protection (if there is such a thing) other than removing 6 seats from ONLY those extra planes if you furlough a junior guy? How about 6 seats from EVERY 76 seater, not just the additional ones? If they had said no, then TOO BAD. Ridiculous. Oh well....


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[jester757]

Moak would not know how to protect or help one of us if his life depended on it. His nose is so far up Anderson's ass he can see Bastain's boots!!

 

[General Lee]

Moak would not know how to protect or help one of us if his life depended on it. His nose is so far up Anderson's ass he can see Bastain's boots!!

Maybe his perceived future is to be the next National Chairman, then onto the FAA as chief? He can give us 15 hour turns per day, and make the ATA jump up and down like "little girls...." Then he can rent Bastain's Park City condo a few weeks each Winter and live the high life.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[FBN0223]

Delta guys and gals: We have many serious issues forthcoming. How about replacing Moak with someone who actually represents the Delta pilots vs. being a Delta management stool pigeon. We all want what is best for the Delta. Delta pilots flying Delta jets IS what's best for Delta.

 

[FDJ2]

Delta guys and gals: We have many serious issues forthcoming. How about replacing Moak with someone who actually represents the Delta pilots vs. being a Delta management stool pigeon.

Replace him with who? We just had an MEC Chairman election in January, he ran unopposed and was unanimously elected. We had an LEC recall attampt a year and a half ago which was a defacto referendum on Lee Moak, it was solidly defeated. If you want to replace Moak and the administration, maybe you need to have someone better willing to stand up and fight for the job. Otherwise all this talk of replacing Moak is nothing more than hot air.