Delta Air Lines management to meet with Hudson Securities at HQ THURS March 18

[Voice Of Reason]

The MEC will be electing our new Negotiation Committee in a few weeks.

Electing or appointing? Do Delta line pilots have any vote in that at all or will it be just another Moak (and Bastian) disciple?

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Electing or appointing? Do Delta line pilots have any vote in that at all or will it be just another Moak (and Bastian) disciple?

The LEC Reps elect the committee.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Everyone on every message board "calls for a shakeup". I am saying that the 14 or so + hrs a DAY everyDAY that you spend on here (and I'm not just picking on you, many are like that, though not as prolific) could be spend on activities which DIRECTLY impact ACTUAL change...not just getting people riled up...but actual activities which FORCE the union's hand to actually REPRESENT.

PDA's are a wonderful thing!

I beleive that many of the ones on here that complain are also the ones that constantly pepper their reps. There are only so many union positions.

I know I am involved on some level. More than I can say for many.

As for 14 hrs a day on this board, nah, another two yes.

 

[Voice Of Reason]

The LEC Reps elect the committee.

ANYONE they want (or that runs) or from who they are given to choose from by those higher in the union?

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Anyone can run. D-ALPA member is good standing.

 

[Voice Of Reason]

Anyone can run. D-ALPA member is good standing.

So then you'll be running?

 

[Voice Of Reason]

...don't tell me...the pilots will just "become a fan" of negotiators or sign a petition on Facebook. No one (The collective, not focusing on anyone in particular) actually wants to work for anything anymore..old school is the ONLY way to affect change and take EFFORT, not keystrokes

 

[fflyerworld]

Whoa! Voice of Reason sounds to me like Voice of Fanatic! Trust me brother - don't work in today's world of reality! Give it a rest and disappear!!

 

[Voice Of Reason]

Give it a rest and disappear!!

This from FFWorld, one of the the wannabe Frequent Flyers (trolling because jealous of pilots) that litter this board
Love all those "ratings" earned sitting on your @$$

case in point:

There is not a day that goes by that I don't hear some of my UA friends complaining and bitching about how bad things are at UA internally - morale awful, hatred and distrust of mgt. (forever I think no matter who is at the helm) etc etc. This is everyone - CSR's , FA's, Pilots, Rampers, Mechanics. UA has a history of this type of negativity. For years it has reflected on their customers(me for one) and anyone who thinks that merging this work force with another one (who cares who it is) is a good idea and will make the world a better place - - needs to wake up. Just look at the US - HP merger a few years ago. They are STILL battling each other and have seen very little if any so called synergies since their joining. You must take care of your own people before you can be successful at tackling a whole new group of labor intensive folks. No matter how you look at this - airlines are a service focused, customer oriented industry. If you can't be happy with yourselves how the hell are you going to be able to take care of who you serve??

 

[fflyerworld]

Who said those were my ratings? Why do you care? Bottom line is you are one angry angry person who apparently is very jealous of Delta Air Lines and it's pilots and all employees! What exactly is your intention? It is not working for me!

 

[fflyerworld]

Oh I get it now! You are a child trying to read...

http://www.rif.org/

 

[Voice Of Reason]

Who said those were my ratings? Why do you care? Bottom line is you are one angry angry person who apparently is very jealous of Delta Air Lines and it's pilots and all employees! What exactly is your intention? It is not working for me!

Ahhh...F&H 101: accuse of the opposite and cause chaos & diversion. :nuts:
FFlyerWorld :: poof! ::: buh-bye flyby...gone almost as soon as you joined.
(thanks ignore feature!)

 

[Voice Of Reason]

So then you'll be running?

Sorry...this got lost in Troll-land. So....?????

 

[fflyerworld]

Hoping you will get lost! Not worth my time kid! Delta will kick a..!!!!

 

[Ad Lib]

Jeesh ACL and message board jockeys like him LIVE on these boards like it's a full time job...how much of that effort is spent creating ACTUAL change in a REAL MANNER for you? None. ALL of you need to get it together OLD SCHOOL and learn how to deal with these conniving vipers. They don't make millions by being nice to pilots.

Hi Pot, have you met Kettle? Allow me to introduce you.

Folks like ACL65 have had a political influence. You can see this effect in the C44 campaign where things he wrote turned up verbatim in Reps campaign publications. The band of merry gentlemen you mention have been involved in the passage of at least 3 resolutions and have run for office.

The recently elected Reps all made scope a priority and at least two of them genuinely get it. The first Council meeting with them in charge included a very comprehensive scope presentation based on independent research done by our new FO Rep.

ALPA's a big boat with not a whole lot of rudder. Someone took the keel and sold it to embellish the Captain's cabin. The navigators are doing their job. They can suggest the course that leads away from the rocks, but the ship's momentum, the Captain, weather and currents all contribute to the thing not going exactly the right direction. If you've got any better suggestions on diplomatically suggesting to the Admiral that he stop selling his fleet, let us know.

Until then we just have to hope we aren't a crewman on the ship that gets sold.