Delta 767 that landed on taxiway at KATL

[Iceman540]

Just curious if anyone has heard the outcome of this one? Is there a thread already on this? If so, could someone kindly shoot me a pointer to it?

Merry Christmas!

 

[CaptJax]

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DAL 767 lands taxiway M at ATL (

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Ticker

10-29-2009 21:47
by doh ​

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[Iceman540]

Thanks!

 

[EMBpilot]

I understand they had a medical emergency so they could have landed on the ramp and been fine as far as the punishment is concerned, right?

Sorry to use the word "punishment" - I worked for CAL for too long.

 

[Dumb Pilot]

I understand they had a medical emergency so they could have landed on the ramp and been fine as far as the punishment is concerned, right?

Sorry to use the word "punishment" - I worked for CAL for too long.

Excuse me?

 

[Ticker]

The crew was honest and forthright from the get go. There were a number of things that went wrong that morning but the crew did the right thing my not making up any kinda story. They'll likely be able to ASAP the deal.

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

I understand they had a medical emergency so they could have landed on the ramp and been fine as far as the punishment is concerned, right?

Sorry to use the word "punishment" - I worked for CAL for too long.

As long as it wasn't intentional....

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

The crew was honest and forthright from the get go. There were a number of things that went wrong that morning but the crew did the right thing my not making up any kinda story. They'll likely be able to ASAP the deal.

Not to mention there were a number of other instances of aircraft almost doing the same thing under the same sidestep situation under the same lighting and airport configuration conditions.

They were retrained and have been back on the line for a month or so now.

 

[dojetdriver]

As long as it wasn't intentional....

Was departing with a crewmember that was known to be sick intentional?

Like I said before, if this event got the same scrutiny that others have, their outcome may have been a lot different.

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

Was departing with a crewmember that was known to be sick intentional?

Like I said before, if this event got the same scrutiny that others have, their outcome may have been a lot different.

After the actual facts of the situation were reviewed by flight ops, the faa, and alpa... it was determined to not be intentional.

I've heard about 3 different stories in regards to the guy that got sick... still don't know which one to believe. The people that had the facts and the actual reports were the ones that determined it to not be an intentional violation. So what does that tell you?

 

[dojetdriver]

After the actual facts of the situation were reviewed by flight ops, the faa, and alpa... it was determined to not be intentional.

I've heard about 3 different stories in regards to the guy that got sick... still don't know which one to believe. The people that had the facts and the actual reports were the ones that determined it to not be an intentional violation. So what does that tell you?

Kinda funny, seems as if at the "other place", people that seem to have a lot of knowledge of DAL said that he was sick before they departed, and his condition worsened enroute.

In fact, here's the direct quote;

The 3rd pilot was sick before the flight....his condition worsened through the flight up to the point of needing to declare a med emergency later in the flight.

Go do a search there and see who wrote it.

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

Kinda funny, seems as if at the "other place", people that seem to have a lot of knowledge of DAL said that he was sick before they departed, and his condition worsened enroute.

In fact, here's the direct quote;



Go do a search there and see who wrote it.

I've flown recently with some head flight ops guys... The level of "not feeling well" has widely varied. Everything from just simply not feeling well to actual vomit.

I'm not sure what the real story is... You sure seem to know.

 

[dojetdriver]

I'm not sure what the real story is... You sure seem to know.

Nope, don't claim to know anything. Just going off what guys that work at DAL say that seem to think they know a lot. As well as seem to think it really wasn't a big deal since nobody got killed.

These guys (and girl) were lucky, PERIOD.

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

These guys (and girl) were lucky, PERIOD.

Anybody said otherwise? You sure seem to think so...It was an embarrassing incident that also highlighted other issues with our crew rest augment as well as visibility problems in ATL during certain lighting conditions.

Was it by great skill and thousands of hours that they didn't mow over one of the psychotic tug drivers that roam around ATL? Absolutely not. I know I've never argued otherwise.... and I havent seen anyone else try to say this. They sure screwed up- something can be learned from every accident, though! The crew cheated death... do we really need to hang them further? How many times have we cheated death through our careers? Guaranteed they won't be screwing something like this up again... The next issue is what can be learned from it....

Only you and some other regional drivers on this and "the other forum" seem to think that we don't think it was a big deal.... then try to make some form of childish compensation from it. You saw us going back and forth on "the big thread" about it trying to figure out what happened and how we can go about not making the same mistake.

 

[dojetdriver]

Anybody said otherwise? You sure seem to think so...It was an embarrassing incident that also highlighted other issues with our crew rest augment as well as visibility problems in ATL during certain lighting conditions.

Nope, but the prevailing mentality seems to be that "it wasn't really a big deal since nobody got killed". Sorry, just can't buy off on that rationale.

Was it by great skill and thousands of hours that they didn't mow over one of the psychotic tug drivers that roam around ATL? Absolutely not. I know I've never argued otherwise.... and I havent seen anyone else try to say this. They sure screwed up- something can be learned from every accident, though! The crew cheated death... do we really need to hang them further? How many times have we cheated death through our careers? Guaranteed they won't be screwing something like this up again... The next issue is what can be learned from it....

Yep, agree with all that, especially with the "sure screwed up" part. I'll make the same point I made with you before, if this thing got HALF the scrutiny that DAL(N) got, you REALLY think the outcome would have been the same?

Only you and some other regional drivers on this and "the other forum" seem to think that we don't think it was a big deal.... then try to make some form of childish compensation from it. You saw us going back and forth on "the big thread" about it trying to figure out what happened and how we can go about not making the same mistake.

See above. I wonder if you were still a "regional driver" and not lucky to be where your are today if your thoughts would still be the same?

"Childish compensation"? Please

You have a Merry Christmas, and fly safe.