December United Class Date

[kj6991]

kj6991 The last time I checked this is flightinfo thread, we keep everybody inform if you dont like questions then don't participate. This is a family here and we dont mind anwering questions for one another. If it's annoying to you I am sorry you feel the way. Yes, I am aware UNICAL pilot window opening up for street hiring right now is pure speculation and optimistic assumptions depending on how many L-UAL pilots accept fall classes on the CAL side. But sooner or later these speculation will become truths, this thread might be the one providing the up to date information. That's why I keep questions coming, to keep the thread a live.

Specifically tell me your info and sources that this speculation will become truth? That's right you can't, hence assumptions and why nothing is a certainty. And, if like you said above in your post that you were already aware the UNICAL pilot window opening is speculation, why did you ask the question in the first place?

 

[ultrarunner]

Just received the email of a job offer on CAL operation side for a December class date. ....

Are you going?

 

[Mad Dog 80]

Specifically tell me your info and sources that this speculation will become truth? That's right you can't, hence assumptions and why nothing is a certainty. And, if like you said above in your post that you were already aware the UNICAL pilot window opening is speculation, why did you ask the question in the first place?

I asked the question in hopes of receiving new and current developments from those from within.

 

[N311HK]

I'll be honest you are pretty annoying on this forum

This site is strictly for complaining, bashing, flaming, and being miserable. Its has nothing to do with acquiring F-ing INFO!

 

[kj6991]

This site is strictly for complaining, bashing, flaming, and being miserable. Its has nothing to do with acquiring F-ing INFO!

At least somebody gets it

 

[Fly4life]

Well I'll try to bring my post back to my intended focus...flying again. Personally I have been blessed to stay in aviation and have the option to return to the cockpit.

To share what I know from speaking with both UAL and CAL representatives (who have been very helpful and professionally outstanding). The news is...officially classes every Tuesday until Dec 18. Unofficially (no announcement yet) there are hundreds of vacancies...with most likely class into next year. United furloughees who choose to pass on the CAL offer may do so, and may place their name back in at a later date. Unfilled seats will be filled with new hires off the street.

That is the best info I can pass along. My understanding is many UAL who have returned to the CAL flying are adjusting to a different contract and hoping for a better one. Let's hope for an industry leading contract..not just for UAL, but for all of us as professional aviators!

Good luck to all.

 

[Fly4life]

I am accepting the offer and returning. Life is great and I love flying. I think from speaking to many pilots at both UAL and CAL...it's a good time. Attrition will pick up and there will be more vacancies. If I'm wrong...well...that's what makes life interesting!

A couple of furloughs has taught me nothing is for sure. Just enjoy the ride while you can!

 

[Chairman]

Tough is an understatement. It's good that they are starting to recall.

I know from the outside it looks like a recall, and not picking a fight or starting flame, however it is a job offer. No longevity for pay purposes until you have been at CAL long enough and no credit for vacation etc. Treated as a new hire for the purpose of first of the month pay advance too. Glad to see more furloughed pilots flying again but it is very different than a recall.

Chairman

 

[igneousy2]

Specifically tell me your info and sources that this speculation will become truth? That's right you can't, hence assumptions and why nothing is a certainty. And, if like you said above in your post that you were already aware the UNICAL pilot window opening is speculation, why did you ask the question in the first place?

I 100% guarantee you that uncial will be opening their hiring window sometime between tomorrow and 2072 as 100% of current pilots will have reached 65 by then. It is not speculation as to if the uncial window will open... It's a question of when. Unless of course you are speculating that uncial will not be around,or there will be no pilots on airplanes by then, but then that would make your statement even more speculative than Maddogs.

You are not expected to reply to every post. If you don't have anything to add...just keep scrolling.

 

[Deacon]

I am accepting the offer and returning. Life is great and I love flying. I think from speaking to many pilots at both UAL and CAL...it's a good time. Attrition will pick up and there will be more vacancies. If I'm wrong...well...that's what makes life interesting!

A couple of furloughs has taught me nothing is for sure. Just enjoy the ride while you can!

Welcome in advance...I can tell you that our (L-CAL) latest system bid showed over 400 vacancies for fos in just about every base on the narrow bodies. That includes 756 in EWR and IAH. also once the combined seniority list is finalized, there will be 1 pilot retiring every 20 hours for the next 10 years or about 400+ a year.

There are large airplane orders as well. Assuming the contract is passed in the next year, reserve rules and pay will be similar to those at Delta ( so we hear) or at least vastly improved from today. It wont pass if they aren't

Dont let all the negativity get to you and enjoy the ride. Again welcome back