December United Class Date

[Fly4life]

Well I'll try to bring my post back to my intended focus...flying again. Personally I have been blessed to stay in aviation and have the option to return to the cockpit.

To share what I know from speaking with both UAL and CAL representatives (who have been very helpful and professionally outstanding). The news is...officially classes every Tuesday until Dec 18. Unofficially (no announcement yet) there are hundreds of vacancies...with most likely class into next year. United furloughees who choose to pass on the CAL offer may do so, and may place their name back in at a later date. Unfilled seats will be filled with new hires off the street.

That is the best info I can pass along. My understanding is many UAL who have returned to the CAL flying are adjusting to a different contract and hoping for a better one. Let's hope for an industry leading contract..not just for UAL, but for all of us as professional aviators!

Good luck to all.

 

[Fly4life]

I am accepting the offer and returning. Life is great and I love flying. I think from speaking to many pilots at both UAL and CAL...it's a good time. Attrition will pick up and there will be more vacancies. If I'm wrong...well...that's what makes life interesting!

A couple of furloughs has taught me nothing is for sure. Just enjoy the ride while you can!

 

[Chairman]

Tough is an understatement. It's good that they are starting to recall.

I know from the outside it looks like a recall, and not picking a fight or starting flame, however it is a job offer. No longevity for pay purposes until you have been at CAL long enough and no credit for vacation etc. Treated as a new hire for the purpose of first of the month pay advance too. Glad to see more furloughed pilots flying again but it is very different than a recall.

Chairman

 

[igneousy2]

Specifically tell me your info and sources that this speculation will become truth? That's right you can't, hence assumptions and why nothing is a certainty. And, if like you said above in your post that you were already aware the UNICAL pilot window opening is speculation, why did you ask the question in the first place?

I 100% guarantee you that uncial will be opening their hiring window sometime between tomorrow and 2072 as 100% of current pilots will have reached 65 by then. It is not speculation as to if the uncial window will open... It's a question of when. Unless of course you are speculating that uncial will not be around,or there will be no pilots on airplanes by then, but then that would make your statement even more speculative than Maddogs.

You are not expected to reply to every post. If you don't have anything to add...just keep scrolling.

 

[Deacon]

I am accepting the offer and returning. Life is great and I love flying. I think from speaking to many pilots at both UAL and CAL...it's a good time. Attrition will pick up and there will be more vacancies. If I'm wrong...well...that's what makes life interesting!

A couple of furloughs has taught me nothing is for sure. Just enjoy the ride while you can!

Welcome in advance...I can tell you that our (L-CAL) latest system bid showed over 400 vacancies for fos in just about every base on the narrow bodies. That includes 756 in EWR and IAH. also once the combined seniority list is finalized, there will be 1 pilot retiring every 20 hours for the next 10 years or about 400+ a year.

There are large airplane orders as well. Assuming the contract is passed in the next year, reserve rules and pay will be similar to those at Delta ( so we hear) or at least vastly improved from today. It wont pass if they aren't

Dont let all the negativity get to you and enjoy the ride. Again welcome back

 

[pilotyip]

all part of the 2012 hiring boom, how many of the recalls will leave jobs and create new openings for other pilots?

 

[Fly4life]

Welcome in advance...I can tell you that our (L-CAL) latest system bid showed over 400 vacancies for fos in just about every base on the narrow bodies. That includes 756 in EWR and IAH. also once the combined seniority list is finalized, there will be 1 pilot retiring every 20 hours for the next 10 years or about 400+ a year.

There are large airplane orders as well. Assuming the contract is passed in the next year, reserve rules and pay will be similar to those at Delta ( so we hear) or at least vastly improved from today. It wont pass if they aren't

Dont let all the negativity get to you and enjoy the ride. Again welcome back

Thank you for the welcome back...I'm very excited to return!

 

[Flooder305]

Thank you for the welcome back...I'm very excited to return!

I like this attitude. We're all such cynics, for whatever reasons we hold, but you're going with enthusiasm. Well done sir.

 

[BrickTop]

Huh? How do you know what passion I share and don't? I simply said you are annoying. Question after question after question. If you are so well up on the hiring you should know that the UNICAL pilot window opening up for street hiring right now is pure speculation and optimistic assumptions depending on how many L-UAL pilots accept fall classes on the CAL side, but nothing has been officially announced by anyone. Stop asking, start reading.

RELAX. Don't be an A$$HOLE. No one is impressed by your smart mouth comments.

 

[BID]

according to the employee bulletin 4000 retirements at United in the next 10 years.

I know CAL work rules blow, trust me I've been here long enough to live through them. (first year pay, no comment) But, I've also had a blast working here. Really cool flying, good airplanes and good crews. I also have some UAL furloughed friends that are on the 737 and they are actually really enjoying it.

Anyway, just trying to be a little positive in this screwed up industry! good luck to those applying.