Dec 3rd DAL class

[120% Torque]

We will have to see what happens with the LAX 73N and 777 slots. Both do not have a lot of bids currently. Of course it is early in the process, it will be interesting none the less

ACL, were you saying there is 777 slots in LAX or just 73N? Thanks.

 

[jke406]

Is there an order to how Brian assigns the class. I interviewed end of OCT. Still no word on a class.

end of October was barely a week ago. take a deep breath and give it a few days.

 

[Muskycat]

I talked to crew resources yesterday. Their plans are as follows for 767er NYC for new hires:

Nov 2007, 25 767er NYC
Dec 2007, 25 767er NYC
Jan 2008, 16 767er NYC
All the above are new hire slots for the 76er. I didn't inquire about any other slots. I was mainly interested in NYC ER to determine whether to bid it or not. And also, the above numbers do not reflect the total new hires per month. Just 767er slots.

Congrats to all, and welcome to Delta!

 

[Meiguy]

I talked to crew resources yesterday. Their plans are as follows for 767er NYC for new hires:

Nov 2007, 25 767er NYC
Dec 2007, 25 767er NYC
Jan 2008, 16 767er NYC
All the above are new hire slots for the 76er. I didn't inquire about any other slots. I was mainly interested in NYC ER to determine whether to bid it or not. And also, the above numbers do not reflect the total new hires per month. Just 767er slots.

Congrats to all, and welcome to Delta!

Do you think you could find out possible numbers of slots in ATL come the new year.

 

[michael707767]

ACL, were you saying there is 777 slots in LAX or just 73N? Thanks.

New categories on this bid are the 777 in NYC, 73N in CVG, and the 7ER and 73N in LAX.

On the downside, LAX is losing the 765 category.

This will be an interesting bid. The 777 in NYC especially. Could cause a lot of movement in NYC......on the other hand might no affect NYC all that much if everyone who bids it comes from another base. But, I will guess about half the 777 captains in NYC come from other bases, half from the NYC base. On the FO side, I will guess about 10 come from other bases, the rest from within the NYC base.

The 73N in LAX will go very junior, IMHO. I would expect about half, maybe a bit more, of the captains to be 96-97 hires. The FO spots in that category may not even be filled. Don't know what to think about the 7ER in LAX, but it will probably end up just a bid junior to what the current 765 category runs.

CVG 73N will be pretty senior as a lot of the CVG pilots who commute to other bases try to go home.

 

[Razor_B]

I'm in the Dec 3rd class also. I interviewed Oct 9th, was held up by the shrink for a bit, OK to train email yesterday, call from Brian this morning.

 

[EMBpilot]

I talked to crew resources yesterday. Their plans are as follows for 767er NYC for new hires:

Nov 2007, 25 767er NYC
Dec 2007, 25 767er NYC
Jan 2008, 16 767er NYC
All the above are new hire slots for the 76er. I didn't inquire about any other slots. I was mainly interested in NYC ER to determine whether to bid it or not. And also, the above numbers do not reflect the total new hires per month. Just 767er slots.

Congrats to all, and welcome to Delta!

Any ideas on what other categories to expect in those classes? I might be the very bottom guy

 

[regionalcap]

Each class is different. You never know what the bottom guys will get. Our plug got 73N NYC.

 

[Muskycat]

Any ideas on what other categories to expect in those classes? I might be the very bottom guy

I'll try to get in touch with them on Monday and ask. But there is going to be a lot of back filling on this recent AE (bid) which closes November 15th. That translate into anybodies guess as to what the openings will be. I would think crew resources would have a better idea after the bid is closed and awarded. This way they can see were they're short from all movement system wide. Then they would most likely fill in with new hires as needed.
They seemed confident about the above numbers for the 76er.
Not sure when the AE will be posted, I would guess early as November 16th and no later than November 20th they should know.

 

[EMBpilot]

I'll try to get in touch with them on Monday and ask. But there is going to be a lot of back filling on this recent AE (bid) which closes November 15th. That translate into anybodies guess as to what the openings will be. I would think crew resources would have a better idea after the bid is closed and awarded. This way they can see were they're short from all movement system wide. Then they would most likely fill in with new hires as needed.
They seemed confident about the above numbers for the 76er.
Not sure when the AE will be posted, I would guess early as November 16th and no later than November 20th they should know.

Thanks for the time and effort. Please post, I am very curious to see what they say. SEA commuter here hoping for any a/c in SLC or LAX. Any strategy advice will be appreciated.

 

[EMBpilot]

I wonder how junior will the LAX 73N go..

 

[Freight Dog]

Hey General, you like Kiev better than Amarillo, TX?

 

[Pat Fabin]

NYC 777 B is looking pretty junior so far. I'm a 2000 hire and as of today there are only 33 people senior to me that want it, and thats not even their first choice. 2 more days until the AE closes right?

I'd bid it but I just got on the ER and haven't seen much yet. Its definitely going to be limited destinations for a while until we get more airframes.
..still its a hefty raise...very tempting.

Maybe next year...

 

[Helos2Galaxy]

OK here are current F/O vacancies on this bid for those keeping score.....

45 ATL 767-400........ shift in flying (from LAX)
10 ATL 757/67 Domestic ..... Adjustment
125 ATL MD-88s .... new hires
30 CVG 737N ........ new categoy
44 LAX 767ER ..... new category (to do Hawaii)
40 LAX 737N ....... new category
32 NYC 777 ........... new vategory
41 NYC 767ER Int'l ...... additional flying
120 NYC MD-88 ..... new hires


The results should posted by Friday or Saturday. If any inbound pilots want any indication of what might be offered to them in the next few months, me or some one else can post the total seats filled by current pilots, and any left over slots (except 777) would probably try to be filled first by a small bid supposedly in January, then possibly new hires.

So, for example, if 41 guys don't bid the NYC 767, we'd probably continue to see new hires there.

(I think the 32 777 slots will fill on the bid anyway.) Although not MY first choice, 20+ guys senior to me want it and I have 1000 pilots below me; I can't look up their preferences. Even if it doesn't fill up, for now we cannot put new hires there due to OpSpecs not allowing it.

 

[GogglesPisano]

NYC 777 B is looking pretty junior so far. I'm a 2000 hire and as of today there are only 33 people senior to me that want it, and thats not even their first choice. 2 more days until the AE closes right?

I'd bid it but I just got on the ER and haven't seen much yet. Its definitely going to be limited destinations for a while until we get more airframes.
..still its a hefty raise...very tempting.

Maybe next year...

How accurate is the eCrew AE link with the information about pilots senior to you who have bid for a seat? I'm a July hire and according to the link there are 50+ pilots senior to me who are bidding M88 FO in NYC (I'm not bidding it, just surprised at that number since guys are waiting to get out of that category.)