Deathtrap MU-2 BANNED

[CSY Mon]

cargo pilots have a tendency to fly when they're tired -- at night or in bad weather."

Yup, they got that one right: Seems all my flying is at night and in bad weather, Freightdoggiestyle tired.

 

[Fearless Tower]

But the one thing that amazed me was the fact that someone with a brand spankin' new multi ticket (me at the time) can just hop into the left seat and fly that beast.

That's exactly what I don't understand about insurance companies and the MU-2. Look at a plane like the Beech 18. The average pilot these days would have a hell of a time finding any company to insure the thing. If a guy like me (assuming I was multi) wanted to buy a BE18 and called up my insurance company, they'd probably hang up the phone laughing at me thinking it was a joke (I can't say that I would blame them). If someone with 1000-2000 hours and say 500 tailwheel called them, they'd probably tell them 'sorry, but we just can't insure you.' If a pilot with say 5000 hours and 1000 tailwheel calls 'em, they'll probably be able to get the insurance, but they best have DEEP pockets.

So why does it seem like they'll let just anybody with a wet ticket fly the MU-2? I agree that the free market doesn't always govern itself properly, but in this case it seems like the insurance companies must be taking a huge risk to insure these things.

 

[CrimsonEclipse]

The article recomends a crack maintenance team, top notch training,
and sharp pilots. Will you find these in the cargo industry? You may
find one, MABIE 2 at a time. The MU-2 requires the pilot to be on the
top of his/her game 24/7.

Also, haven't there been a couple of wing seperation in the past year?

25% of the fleet has been in an accident.

Is it a good plane? I can be in its own way.

From a liability standpoint, Would I want it in my fleet?
Hell no!

When is someone going to put a couple of Williams jets on this thing?!
If it flys like a jet, why not MAKE it a jet.

CE

Just sayin'

 

[Swass]

The article recomends a crack maintenance team, top notch training,
and sharp pilots. Will you find these in the cargo industry? You may
find one, MABIE 2 at a time. The MU-2 requires the pilot to be on the
top of his/her game 24/7.

Also, haven't there been a couple of wing seperation in the past year?

25% of the fleet has been in an accident.

Is it a good plane? I can be in its own way.

From a liability standpoint, Would I want it in my fleet?
Hell no!

When is someone going to put a couple of Williams jets on this thing?!
If it flys like a jet, why not MAKE it a jet.

CE

Just sayin'

Very interesting idea about the jets, it would make a hella cool VLJ.

I was riding passenger in an MU2B at altitude in clear air and had a very loud bang and considerable shuddering. It was only momentary (2-3 seconds) but it felt alot longer. The pilots had no idea what it was, I thought we canned an engine at first but that was not it, no damage to the fuselage, leading edges or anything found. It was a weird experience to say the least. I had the chance to own one but chose the Conquest instead. Very quarky aircraft, those MU2's

 

[Lead Sled]

heheh, not really, I'm just stirring the pot.


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Discuss........

What would this be... the 3rd or 4th certification review? The airplane has shown that it meets the certification requirements. It's not the airplane, it's the half-trained pilots flying them. What MU-2 pilots need is adequate and proper training. (Something that can be shown to be missing in the vast majority of MU-2 accidents.)

LS

 

[siucavflight]

The MU-2 seems fine to me, just pilots that are not trained properly.

 

[CrimsonEclipse]

Oh, and a jet conversion would be easier since there would be no
sudden loss of induced lift (from the prop wash) from an engine
failure.

I haven't really researched the structural requirement yet.

It'd look like a mini-328Jet!!

CE

 

[agpilot34]

The MU-2 seems fine to me, just pilots that are not trained properly.

And... you've flown HOW MANY hours in the MU-2 to substantiate this claim??

 

[Lead Sled]

The MU-2 seems fine to me, just pilots that are not trained properly.

And... you've flown HOW MANY hours in the MU-2 to substantiate this claim??

I'll second his claim. It's been my contention since 1986 when I first flew the MU-2. It's what they told us back then at FlightSafety and it's what they're telling us now. Oh by the way, I don't have as much MU-2 time as many MU-2 guys lurking around here, but I do have 1,000 hours in it - single-pilot, air ambulance; 98% of it at night and in the mountains.

LS

 

[siucavflight]

And... you've flown HOW MANY hours in the MU-2 to substantiate this claim??

About 800 hrs, is that enough?