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D'Angelo said:
Dont worry HS the Delta pilots will also vote to save their careers. As soon as the FAs are dealt with here at comair ill still be livin it up! Then when Delta pilots vote to save their job its smooth sailing from there.

"Save" their jobs, eh? If I "save" a dollar, I still have that dollar. When they "save" their jobs they end up with 57 cents. How is this "saving" anything? It's agreeing to do the same job for less money. You haven't "saved" anything, you've diminished it.
 
CaptainMark said:
since your wife makes more money than u do..i bet you hear "who's your daddy" a lot....steak and lobster in a CONDO...hahahahahaha...what a joke u r....you have no idea what the good life is....i am still laughing while typing this....u keep bragging about combined income of 95/yr...that is sad!....u r the ultimate loser...and the entire flightinfo board knows it...

She actually makes roughly the same as I do. You bet its livin it up!!! BTW the average combined income in america is much less than 95k/year so we are definately in the above average bracket. I know it makes you so angry but dont worry mark we all know your superior. I actually am living the good life. Your living an angry life where theres no such thing as enough money. I actually feel sorry for you. Your greed is slowly overtaking your ability to achieve happiness. You actually want to go on strike for another raise?! hahahahaha thats a good one.

You are already overpaid and dont deserve one more raise for the rest of your career however long that may be. I do believe you will get another raise, until the company can figure out how to break an unreasonable fedex strike which is highly unlikely at this time. BTW my parents have gotten by fabulously on a combined income of 65-85k/year through smart investments, continuous building of equity etc. etc. they are living it up on a nearly million dollar house in Long Island with a mortage of about 1100/month. Thats just smart living. You dont want the world to know its possible though you want them to think you cant live the good life unless you live like the almighty Mark. Sorry Mark another lie exposed. Heres a hint you buy a house rent it out and buy another as its value grows. The more equity you obtain the more you can live it up and you can do it right around 100k/year. Sorry to be a mythbuster.
 
Bringupthebird said:
"Save" their jobs, eh? If I "save" a dollar, I still have that dollar. When they "save" their jobs they end up with 57 cents. How is this "saving" anything? It's agreeing to do the same job for less money. You haven't "saved" anything, you've diminished it.

Diminished returns are better than the unemployment line or starting all over at first year pay. Starting over at first year pay is for the tards.
 
dardar said:
D'Angelo - I really hate the Union thing too.


Keep up the good work.

Good for you. Lots of people are sick and tired of unionism being forced at them. We are starting to take back our freedoms!
 
D'Angelo said:
We are starting to take back our freedoms!

You haven't done anything but post inflamitory drivel on an internet message board. You haven't even expressed your opinion on the union message board (where your identity would be known). If you want change you actually have to do something about it.

I'll happily pay my 2%. If it returns 3% over the course of my career I have made a good investment. Of course I could go to a non-union shop and benefit from the hard work of the union shops, but that would not be fair, would it?
 
well..i will finally take the advice of many and put this idiot on my ignore list....he has not a clue of this business...he will not last ...and will never make it in aviation....he is a total loser and is a disgrace to the profession and has no respect for the job he tries to do and the rest of us do so well..see ya d-----bag!
 
I can't ignore him, the daily laugh is an addiction.
 
doh said:
If one pilot gets paid $200,000, management says pilots make $200,000.

So I guess all Mesaba pilots make $17,000?? They must because that's what the picket signs said.
 
mesaba2425 said:
So I guess all Mesaba pilots make $17,000?? They must because that's what the picket signs said.
Good thing we dont believe all the picket signs that we have seen over the years. How heartless of ALPO to charge dues since all their members are obviously in poverty! Hey im just sayin what the signs tell me!
 
mesaba2425 said:
So I guess all Mesaba pilots make $17,000?? They must because that's what the picket signs said.

Hmm, I have not seen a sign that says ALL MESABA PILOTS MAKE $17,000 PER YEAR. I have however, read manytimes in the paper that I make $200,000 per year. Could you please put the picture on the board that tells me all Mesaba pilots make 17K. I really want to see it.:puke:

And D'oosch, you still have not explained to me how "it is possible" for ALL pilots at Comair to have 15-16 days off.
 
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doh said:
Hmm, I have not seen a sign that says ALL MESABA PILOTS MAKE $17,000 PER YEAR. I have however, read manytimes in the paper that I make $200,000 per year. Could you please put the picture on the board that tells me all Mesaba pilots make 17K.

He wont be able to do that. The sign read "I make $17,000 a year" and was carried by an individual. Very different from the blanket statement management gives the media such as "Mesaba pilots make $40,000 a year".

I'm starting to think D'Angelo might be right. He and Mesaba 2425 shouldn't have to join the union. They should be allowed to be hired by a company and negotiate their own pay, work rules, retirement, etc. I think that would unbunch their panties.
 
kmox29 said:
He wont be able to do that. The sign read "I make $17,000 a year" and was carried by an individual. Very different from the blanket statement management gives the media such as "Mesaba pilots make $40,000 a year".

I'm starting to think D'Angelo might be right. He and Mesaba 2425 shouldn't have to join the union. They should be allowed to be hired by a company and negotiate their own pay, work rules, retirement, etc. I think that would unbunch their panties.

Not at all there are no new companies out there. The rates are already set at every company. In todays environment you have to simply realize whats prudent and whats not. Thats deregulation. The market does work though. In your union worst case scenario theory if a non union company only topped people out at 45 k/year the attrition would be too high. At a point it gets cheaper to raise the wages than to keep training new pilots over and over. What point that is I dunno but its set by the market. Shame on the union for keeping wages artificially high all these years. Now theyve created an environment of shattered dreams when the market simply cant bear the wages.
 
Yeah, there's plenty of opportunities with non-union charter companies in Farmingdale and Islip for this guy. I wonder what compelled him to go to Comair? He mustn't have been drawn by the CA salaries, because they had been negotiated by union thugs. Why would he want the guilt of that on his conscience? He better not apply at a major, the guilt would do him in!

Wait, now I understand. He has a donation to management payroll deducted. His motto, "If we all earn a little, we can all do a lot!"

Remember, it's never too early to save your job!
 
D'Angelo said:
Not at all there are no new companies out there. The rates are already set at every company. In todays environment you have to simply realize whats prudent and whats not. Thats deregulation. The market does work though. In your union worst case scenario theory if a non union company only topped people out at 45 k/year the attrition would be too high. At a point it gets cheaper to raise the wages than to keep training new pilots over and over. What point that is I dunno but its set by the market. Shame on the union for keeping wages artificially high all these years. Now theyve created an environment of shattered dreams when the market simply cant bear the wages.

Maybe when your 4th year pay raise comes up you should decline it because you are already overpaid. That will show those lousy bastards at alpo who's boss!
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Bringupthebird said:
Yeah, there's plenty of opportunities with non-union charter companies in Farmingdale and Islip for this guy. I wonder what compelled him to go to Comair? He mustn't have been drawn by the CA salaries, because they had been negotiated by union thugs. Why would he want the guilt of that on his conscience? He better not apply at a major, the guilt would do him in!

Wait, now I understand. He has a donation to management payroll deducted. His motto, "If we all earn a little, we can all do a lot!"

Remember, it's never too early to save your job!

When I first started out I was fairly neutral on the subject of unions. I saw what they had done at comair and thought maybe they werent all that bad. Then I started seeing how they operate through anger lies and fear. They want everyone angry all the time. Just look at the ASA threads those guys look like they are about to have a corinary. They use fear to try and scare everyone into thinking without a union we would all be fired by now or without a medical. Sorry people arent buying it. It gets very old hearing the same chanting over and over. Anytime you disagree with a union person they get very vocal, defensive and angry. Im not going to let the fact that a union is there at a company stop me. They have infested the industry with their lies so you basically have to live with them for now. All im asking for is to end forced unionism and forced fees. Whem the NRTW foundation and I complete this goal I will ride off into the sunset and keep my opinions to myself. Of course they wont go without a huge fight, this is money they are talking about and ALPO is very greedy.
 
doh said:
Hmm, I have not seen a sign that says ALL MESABA PILOTS MAKE $17,000 PER YEAR. I have however, read manytimes in the paper that I make $200,000 per year. Could you please put the picture on the board that tells me all Mesaba pilots make 17K. I really want to see it.:puke:

And D'oosch, you still have not explained to me how "it is possible" for ALL pilots at Comair to have 15-16 days off.


http://www.mesabalabor.org/images/picket/index.html

I guess they've gotten a pay raise since the last time they picketed. Now they make $21K. Previously they made $17K.
 
mesaba2425 said:
http://www.mesabalabor.org/images/picket/index.html

I guess they've gotten a pay raise since the last time they picketed. Now they make $21K. Previously they made $17K.

I guess there is one picket sign that is true in there. The one that says I am not the problem. That is true ALPO is the one that is the problem. They are wasting all their time making cutsy little picket signs and cool slogans. They should be spending more time trying to save the airline and less time on those stupid picket signs that no one cares about.
 

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