Dear D'angelo:

[gearjockey]

Yo Bro.

I'd like to change tack and play nice. Your renegade ideas seem in contrast to the majority opinion expressed on this forum. Airline HR personnel are usually successful in eliminating totally disimillar character from their new hire corps.

I assume you possess the requisite flying skill and aptitude required to complete ground school, etc. I doubt me or anyone else on this board will ever change your opinion so maybe we could get to know you a little better before we continuously bash you.

Home town?
Where did you go to school?
College grad?
flight training: where? when?

 

[D'Angelo]

Yo Bro.

I'd like to change tack and play nice. Your renegade ideas seem in contrast to the majority opinion expressed on this forum. Airline HR personnel are usually successful in eliminating totally disimillar character from their new hire corps.

I assume you possess the requisite flying skill and aptitude required to complete ground school, etc. I doubt me or anyone else on this board will ever change your opinion so maybe we could get to know you a little better before we continuously bash you.

Home town?
Where did you go to school?
College grad?
flight training: where? when?

Hey my friend Ill tell you what I am an HR persons dream and you can believe that! Who would they rather have? Someone who actually appriciates the company they work for or some angry union blowhard who thrives on campaigns of lies, anger, and fear? Sure a pilot does part of the interview however they do not ask how you feel about a union.

I have really proven that unions thrive on control. When they start losing control of their members they get very insecure and start resorting to smear campaigns, scare tactics, reigns of terror and other things. They do whatever they can to gain control back. They feel the revolution. Sometimes you can just feel it in the air that something special is about to happen. What the future holds no one knows. This I will guarantee you the unions will no longer be able to treat everyone like the borg. People are starting to think for themselves and its quite liberating. Its not going to stop until ALPO changes their unethical gangster style ways of doing buisness.

As far as your questions go. My home town is Staten Island, NY. I also lived in long island fairly close to the hamptons for most of the time. Great place to grow up. I also did my flight training out in long island from 2000-2002. I graduated college in 2002 as well in an un related degree at a college in Long Island. My question for you all is this. Why are you so afraid of people that think for themselves? What do you have to fear? If all is well at your precious union then you have nothing to worry about. If your precious union gets sacked then its what the majority wanted anyway. What are you so afraid of? Are you afraid of democracy? Do you want to impose a stalinist regime where all the union members goose step, chant and carry signs at the same time? Do you think forced unionism is good? Why do unions have to use anger fear and lies to push their agenda? Why are they such control freaks?

 

[atrdriver]

I have really proven that unions thrive on control.

No, you have only proven that you are an idiot. If you didn't have a union at CMR you would be making about 10/hour right now as an FO, then I'd like to see how much of a wet dream you'd be for the HR department. Amazing how you can benefit from what the unions do for you, all the while berating them and calling the people that have fought so hard for what you enjoy stupid.

 

[WSurf]

No, you have only proven that you are an idiot. If you didn't have a union at CMR you would be making about 10/hour right now as an FO, then I'd like to see how much of a wet dream you'd be for the HR department. Amazing how you can benefit from what the unions do for you, all the while berating them and calling the people that have fought so hard for what you enjoy stupid.

Perfect........ Well said!

 

[bvt1151]

It baffles me why you guys respond to this guy, let alone start a whole thread for him. The only reason D'Angelo and EMBSkillz exist is because you guys keep entertaining them. No matter how obviously correct you are, the guy is going to get his jollies off irritating you. Kinda like that kid in 3rd grade who your mom said just wanted attention. IGNORE!

 

[uba757]

Very well said BVT. UBA757

 

[D'Angelo]

No, you have only proven that you are an idiot. If you didn't have a union at CMR you would be making about 10/hour right now as an FO, then I'd like to see how much of a wet dream you'd be for the HR department. Amazing how you can benefit from what the unions do for you, all the while berating them and calling the people that have fought so hard for what you enjoy stupid.

Your too afraid to answer my question. So why then are pilots at non union airlines such as Jetblue and Skywest? Theres a perfect example of FEAR LIES AND ANGER. You want people to fear that without the union they would be making nothing. LIES that its nothing but the union that keeps people having a job. ANGER, now that ive exposed your unions secrets you use smear campaigns. Remember those words ladies and gentleman. Those are the 3 key words on how unions stay in buisness. FEAR, ANGER, LIES. Also a close 4th is control. They want to control all their members and have them all think the same. So why is everyone so scared to answer my questions? Probably because the unions are starting to lose control and that scares the hell out of them.

 

[D'Angelo]

Perfect........ Well said!

And why havent you answered my questions sir. Your perpetuating his campaign of fear lies and anger. So tell me why should unions be allowed to force people to pay dues or mx. fees?

 

[John Pennekamp]

And why havent you answered my questions sir. Your perpetuating his campaign of fear lies and anger. So tell me why should unions be allowed to force people to pay dues or mx. fees?

D' Angelo has a chip on his shoulder because of the debt society owes him. He's mad at society because his ancestors worked for mine... but they didn't get paid much. You know, The Man is keeping him down.

 

[CaptainMark]

Don't worry all...when d'angelo taxiis of a snow covered taxiiway or slides of a runway or fired because he is a muslim...he will be running to ALPA for help to keep is 20/hr job....they always do...

 

[D'Angelo]

Don't worry all...when d'angelo taxiis of a snow covered taxiiway or slides of a runway or fired because he is a muslim...he will be running to ALPA for help to keep is 20/hr job....they always do...

If taxiing off a runway or taxi way is a result of braking action or some other circumstance that was un reported or could not resonably be expected to know then I would be exonerated. I am not muslim but if I was fired purely for religious reasons then the EEOC would get my job back NOT the union. You still never found out if that one guy who was ALLEGEDLY fired because of religion ever even got his job back. The plain fact is ALPO isnt needed. If someone screws up really bad and has an accident and/or incident due to neglicence then they shouldnt get their job back.

 

[D'Angelo]

D' Angelo has a chip on his shoulder because of the debt society owes him. He's mad at society because his ancestors worked for mine... but they didn't get paid much. You know, The Man is keeping him down.

ha! hardly sir in case you didnt know that happened long ago. Society owes me nothing but the right not to be harassed by unions if I so choose. Also to not have to waste my money on their campaign of anger, fear, and lies.

 

[737 Pylt]

Don't worry all...when d'angelo taxiis of a snow covered taxiiway or slides of a runway or fired because he is a muslim...he will be running to ALPA for help to keep is 20/hr job....they always do...

Mark:
You're assuming this idiot will ever make it as a captain. His first busted ride he'll be knocking down the unions door because of unfair treatment, and unfortunately the union will have to defend this worthless prick!
737

 

[John Pennekamp]

ha! hardly sir in case you didnt know that happened long ago. Society owes me nothing but the right not to be harassed by unions if I so choose. Also to not have to waste my money on their campaign of anger, fear, and lies.

Youy already have that right homeboy. It's called ignoring them. Which you're clearly too immature and angry to do.

 

[D'Angelo]

Youy already have that right homeboy. It's called ignoring them. Which you're clearly too immature and angry to do.

Angry? Ha hardly. You wanna talk angry take a look at your pilot group boi. They look like they are about to have a coronary. I am quite happy and content with my position and wages even after the pay cut. I simply will not stand for unionism and just accept it. You want the union fine just dont make me pay any part of it.

 

[D'Angelo]

Another example of fear tactics. Why would anyone need a union for ONE busted checkride? Its really quite simple if you fail your PC. You admit you screwed up, learn from your mistake, retrain and move on with your life. If you keep busting checkrides over and over the union shouldnt even try and save your A$$. Everyone makes mistakes. A busted checkride DOES NOT mean the end of your career and the union is NOT needed to help you with a busted ride. Its all about attitude and learning.

 

[Coool Hand Luke]

Angry? Ha hardly. You wanna talk angry take a look at your pilot group boi. They look like they are about to have a coronary. I am quite happy and content with my position and wages even after the pay cut. I simply will not stand for unionism and just accept it. You want the union fine just dont make me pay any part of it.

Too bad Eastern Airlines is not around anymore D'Angelo. You'd have been a perfect fit in the "post strike" era. In the mean time, might I suggest that from now on you walk into work backwards to facilitate the process of you "taking it in the a$$" as you claim.

 

[doh]

It baffles me why you guys respond to this guy, let alone start a whole thread for him. The only reason D'Angelo and EMBSkillz exist is because you guys keep entertaining them. No matter how obviously correct you are, the guy is going to get his jollies off irritating you. Kinda like that kid in 3rd grade who your mom said just wanted attention. IGNORE!

I respond to D'Oosch because I spend too much time stuck in airports and hotels. It entertains me to respond to him. When he is no longer fun for me to respond to, I will hit the ignore.

 

[Rekks Inbound]

One busted checkride, huh? Let me tell you a little story.

Guy goes in for a 135 6 month ride. Everything is going well, the next (and last) approach is a LOC to circling mins, then circle for landing in the opposite direction. He flys the approach just fine, circles, and begins his decent for landing abeam the numbers on the runway for landing. OOPS! According to the CP, he just busted the ride (the CP was an EAL Scab, by the way). But wait, says the pilot. I can decend with the runway in sight and in a normal position to make a landing. And C310's don't come down that fast. Guy gets fired, to make a long story short. CP badmouths him to pospective employers, saying he can't fly worth a damn.

Why a union? To help prevent things like this. Or the person who pull a bad EKG on a medical, because the machine malfunctioned.

Do unions get gredy sometimes? You bet! Do they do a disservice? Sometimes. But look at history. Unions built this country. And did it while helping to provide practical work rules and livable salaries.

You site JetBlue and SkyWest. Let me tell you something. If JetBlue begins to abuse their employees, they will have a union on the property FAST. SkyWest? Look at their history. Everytime they begin to rumble about bringing a union on the property, they (management) just matches what the nearest contract offers. But without any union shops out there, they would pay as little as they could, and abuse their employees as much as some little non-union 135 operator. Think about that with all of your 'Airline Experience' before you condemn what you obviously do not understand.

Peace

Rekks

PS. The guy in the story above does exist, I know him well. And the bust was his only one in nearly 20 years i this business.

 

[flyboyike]

Why is it that none of you guys can spell?

 

[Stifler's Mom]

Duh Angelo, it's amazing that you were the first sperm to make it to the egg.uke:

 

[ArcticFlier]

Duh Angelo, it's amazing that you were the first sperm to make it to the egg.uke:

Ability to swim and intelligence don't go hand in hand.


AF

 

[SkyNation]

SkyWest? Look at their history. Everytime they begin to rumble about bringing a union on the property, they (management) just matches what the nearest contract offers.

so we get the same result without giving up 2%. color it however you want, but SkyWest has been, is, and will continue to be a desirable place to work. Otherwise, no one would come here, OR, they'd leave here for the 'golden palaces' of unionized airlines, using it as a stepping stone. this happens rarely, if ever, unless it's to a major. hell, even the loudest union flag wavers are leaving here for JetBlue-a non-ALPA airline!!!!!!!! we do get a ton of guys jump from ALPA ships to come here, however. hmmmmmmmm

at the end of the day, I make as much or more here as my counterparts at all the supposedly 'glorious' ALPA regionals, my company is healthy, 99% of guys who get booted here deserved it, etc. I'm happy here and we're not union. either I'm stupid or I have a different perspective than those that shout about ALPA greatness from buildings that are burning down around them.

oh, and we have bases in the West.

(yawn)

and now, back to your bitchfest, as scheduled

 

[EMB Skillz]

Join Alpa!

 

[Ready2Fly]

Why is it that none of you guys can spell?

Because they don't have the coveted four year college degree that would allow them to get on with a major. Therefore, they are stuck at the regionals for life.

 

[flx757]

Because they don't have the coveted four year college degree that would allow them to get on with a major. Therefore, they are stuck at the regionals for life.

Ready2Fly is TheGuat, Rhoid, IHaveAPension, LucyFurr, E170GuppyKiller, TheGuppyKiller, GuppyKiller, TheMissingLink, ABXpert, UPSer, RJDC, OUT, 410Dude, BR549, FreightNazi....etc...etc...

 

[Ready2Fly]

EMB Skillz is the Rhoid. Not me. I jumpseat on Alaska all the time.

 

[D'Angelo]

Join Alpa!

hahaha that picture is hilarious and so true. Thats just how DW or whoever will run the union wants it. They all have to have a broom on the face. They want everyone goose stepping following him into a war that cannot be won. Perfect analogy.

 

[EMB Skillz]

hahaha that picture is hilarious and so true. Thats just how DW or whoever will run the union wants it. They all have to have a broom on the face. They want everyone goose stepping following him into a war that cannot be won. Perfect analogy.

Hahaha, I thought you would get a kick out of that!

 

[D'Angelo]

so we get the same result without giving up 2%. color it however you want, but SkyWest has been, is, and will continue to be a desirable place to work. Otherwise, no one would come here, OR, they'd leave here for the 'golden palaces' of unionized airlines, using it as a stepping stone. this happens rarely, if ever, unless it's to a major. hell, even the loudest union flag wavers are leaving here for JetBlue-a non-ALPA airline!!!!!!!! we do get a ton of guys jump from ALPA ships to come here, however. hmmmmmmmm

at the end of the day, I make as much or more here as my counterparts at all the supposedly 'glorious' ALPA regionals, my company is healthy, 99% of guys who get booted here deserved it, etc. I'm happy here and we're not union. either I'm stupid or I have a different perspective than those that shout about ALPA greatness from buildings that are burning down around them.

oh, and we have bases in the West.

(yawn)

and now, back to your bitchfest, as scheduled

oh dont be saying that now!! you wouldnt dare say that non union airlines are just as well off as union airlines are would you? Why that would be called blasphemy. Who knows maybe all dissenters will end up "out of commission" some how due to union thug tactics. I say keep up the good fight skywest. Youve done a fantastic job making your voices heard and remaining union free for all these years. It appears the very vocal minority is at it again. Dont let them ruin your company like the union has ruined most regionals. Ruined because ALPO doesnt give 2 $hits about regionals. That so called task force is way too little way too late. Perhaps if they had a regional alpa and a major alpa we would have been better off. ALPA is exactly the one to blame for this mess we are in. They started the every man for himself game now we the people will finish it. Give ALPA hell guys! Keep up the good fight! Throw em to the curb with egg on their faces.