DCI to lose 4000 hours by Spring

[General Lee]

Delta going back into bankruptcy was reported from the meeting as well. Jeesh, I hope the guy was exaggerating.

Highly doubtful. Our balance sheet is doing very well and almost every analyst has a buy for the stock. I would like to see the transcript. Why would our CFO state we would be the ones acquiring another airline if we had to. We have the cash.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

I see nothing in today's new to suggest Delta would go back into BK. Could we sometime in the future? Sure, maybe. Could all of the other airlines also go into BK? Sure, maybe.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[dal757]

Mesa out?

I suspect Mesa will be out!? My gut feeling is XJet will stay as is or grow out West.

 

[Jmoney]

Here we go.....

I see nothing in today's new to suggest Delta would go back into BK. Could we sometime in the future? Sure, maybe. Could all of the other airlines also go into BK? Sure, maybe.

Bye Bye--General Lee

Damn, dude.....

You don't remember that DAL's turnaround plan was based on @$75 or less crude. I am not happy about it either, but really, you don't remember that?

 

[General Lee]

Damn, dude.....

You don't remember that DAL's turnaround plan was based on @$75 or less crude. I am not happy about it either, but really, you don't remember that?

There is no truth to this rumor. I have seen nothing regarding any of this, and the only thing I have seen is that we MAY have a SMALL operating loss this quarter. We have been profitable the last two, and one of them was over $200 million in the profit category.

Also, our turnaround plan probably had that $75 or less crude, but we have added a fuel surcharge to most fares. As long as you add a fuel surcharge, it should not affect you that much. You know that.

If this came out of a DCI meeting discussing loss of DCI flying, I bet the speaker had to throw something in there to give some sort of a reason why Delta would be doing this. Regardless, the media doesn't know anything about that, hence the lack of any articles stating anything close.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[PCL_128]

If true... Anderson strikes again!

Anderson didn't take NWA into bankruptcy. He left prior to the filing, and Lorenzo's golden-child Steenland took the company into bankruptcy.

 

[SkyNation]

Delta plans to cut the number of DCI carriers in half.

ASA-not going anywhere

Big Sky-?

Chautauqua-I doubt it

Comair-smaller maybe, but still part of DCI

ExpressJet-I'd put them in the potential group

Freedom-also potential

Pinnacle-I'd guess no

Shuttle America-maybe

SkyWest-I'd guess no


so just guessing, I only see 3 possibly going. Was he saying that is what 'needs' to happen or what WILL happen?

 

[TOOL CRIB]

Guys, 4000 block hours really isnt that much if you think about it. I;m assuming it means 4000 hrs/month. If one a/c flies avg 7-8 hours a day, that's about 220-240 hrs/month. That's approx 17 a/c worth of flying. As stated before, Comair is losing some CRJ-100s and CHQ is dropping their EMB-135s eventually. I am willing to bet that will be it. Probably some reduced flying for everybody else but I doubt ASA or SKYW will actually park planes.

 

[wmuflyguy]

What happened to the blurb in the last concessionary novation that stated Comair had to maintain 90% of it's current fleet as of the date of signing? Does the loss of these airplanes still honor that stipulation?

It is 90% of current fleet except for aircraft that the leases expire on. The leases on these 8 aircraft have reached the end of their terms and won't be renewed.

 

[wms]

ASA lost over 2000 hours from the summer to fall schedules.

 

[boknowsASA]

ASA-not going anywhere

Big Sky-?

Chautauqua-I doubt it

Comair-smaller maybe, but still part of DCI

ExpressJet-I'd put them in the potential group

Freedom-also potential

Pinnacle-I'd guess no

Shuttle America-maybe

SkyWest-I'd guess no


so just guessing, I only see 3 possibly going. Was he saying that is what 'needs' to happen or what WILL happen?

Just my guess

Big Sky- gone --------------Comair- Stay

Chautauqua- ---------------Pinnacle- stay for now.

ExpressJet- ----------------SkyWest- Stay

Freedom- ------------------ASA- stay

Shuttle America-


Of the other four one will stay which one I dont know

 

[Minimaniac]

ASA-not going anywhere

Big Sky-?

Chautauqua-I doubt it

Comair-smaller maybe, but still part of DCI

ExpressJet-I'd put them in the potential group

Freedom-also potential

Pinnacle-I'd guess no

Shuttle America-maybe

SkyWest-I'd guess no


so just guessing, I only see 3 possibly going. Was he saying that is what 'needs' to happen or what WILL happen?

Pretty accurate guess, though I would alter it to say:

Big Sky: Gone. Brought on only to help prevent US Airways takeover by showing too much overlap in Boston markets.

Comair: Only 8 aircraft smaller

CHQ: 15 aircraft scheduled to be removed from service in 2008 already... that accounts for a huge part of 4000 hours. The 145's are likely to stay

Shuttle America: New large RJ aircraft just ordered, so they are going to stay around for a while, even through another bankruptcy.

Xjet: Despite the good product and reduced rates, they are too new and fly too few aircraft to justify a permanent place in the smaller family

Lastly: Big talk is what management is for. In the end, far fewer hours will be cut and we will see more of a realignment of fleets. Delta will trim the fat, but they aren't going to cut any meat off the steak.

 

[Striptyler]

Big sky is serving EAS routes... doubt they'd just "be gone" unless you expect cape air to cover and buy out the bids...
Colgan isn't going to take the bigsky lines, and i doubt commute air would bid. Nobod seems to want the 1900's anymore

 

[General Lee]

Pretty accurate guess, though I would alter it to say:

Big Sky: Gone. Brought on only to help prevent US Airways takeover by showing too much overlap in Boston markets.

Comair: Only 8 aircraft smaller

CHQ: 15 aircraft scheduled to be removed from service in 2008 already... that accounts for a huge part of 4000 hours. The 145's are likely to stay

Shuttle America: New large RJ aircraft just ordered, so they are going to stay around for a while, even through another bankruptcy.

Xjet: Despite the good product and reduced rates, they are too new and fly too few aircraft to justify a permanent place in the smaller family

Lastly: Big talk is what management is for. In the end, far fewer hours will be cut and we will see more of a realignment of fleets. Delta will trim the fat, but they aren't going to cut any meat off the steak.

When are you guys going BK? If the Comair president said anything about Delta possibly going BK in the future, it was probably because we have too many RJs. That is why we are cutting back on 4000 block hours, to start with. Anderson hinted in his townhall meeting that we have too many and we need to build up mainline domestically. (he stated we will get 9 MD90s and 7 737-700s next year, besides the 4 777LRs) We have less debt than any other Legacy, and we are profitable for the year. A small operating loss MAY occur this quarter, but that is it. You need to educate yourself before making such statements. And, your E170s are being replaced one for one with E175s. United, who really is having problems (noted in the press) is getting the ex Delta E170s, and if they go away you will have major problems.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[wms]

Big sky is serving EAS routes... doubt they'd just "be gone" unless you expect cape air to cover and buy out the bids...
Colgan isn't going to take the bigsky lines, and i doubt commute air would bid. Nobod seems to want the 1900's anymore

ASA has pulled out of a few EAS routes. It just takes a 90 day notice.