DC-8s, anyone???

[jafo20]

I definitely meet the posted requirements, but what are competitive qualifications for ATI? Do you need to have turbojet time, or does turbine time suffice?

 

[b707guy]

Well, all I can say is that the answer's "no" if you don't send anything in. I really don't know what might be considered competitive, except that scabs need not apply, and if they like you in the interview and think you can handle our schedule, you're ahead of the game. We've hired from all sources over the years, including many from turboprop regionals. We've also got quite a few with military backgrounds (most PFEs as you may guess are ex-military), a number of folks furloughed from majors, although most of them have been recalled, which is partly why we're looking to hire, some corporate, you name it. As I mentioned, we have no idea where we're headed. Could be some great things coming down the pike, could be doom and gloom. If any of you get an interview, ask around (maybe not in the interview itself ...) about the future and what's really going on, since things seem to change daily around here. I hope we're not looking to hire just to cover peak (Christmas season) only to lay anyone off again come January, but given our current diet of fecal matter and darkness of late, it wouldn't surprise me. It would, however, disappoint me greatly because we as a whole deserve better. Definitely apply if you think you'd like the job. Let them tell you yes or no and then make your decision. I have no direct information, but my gut tells me we're looking to have a pool of applicants "in case" things improve and we need more bodies. If so, the worst part of that "plan" is that we'd automatically be behind in training and qualifying those needed people from the get go. But I'd rather see that than hire, train, qualify, lay off. We'll just have to see what pans out.

In the meantime, I've never missed a paycheck, we've never had to pay cash for hotels, we do some really neat stuff all around the world, and we have some of the finest folks to work with.

 

[Lear Wanna Be]

Just out of curiosity, what does a first year FO make? I didn't see anything on airlinepilotcentral.com.

 

[DC8 Flyer]

Just out of curiosity, what does a first year FO make? I didn't see anything on airlinepilotcentral.com.

ATI is under "charter"


http://airlinepilotcentral.com/airlines/charter/ati.html

 

[haulingthemail]

Just out of curiosity, what does a first year FO make? I didn't see anything on airlinepilotcentral.com.

You'll be furloughed in less than a year, so I wouldn't worry to much about what you are going to make. Worry more about how much you will lose in the process of unemployment.

 

[ERJFO]

How is the airplane set up for long haul flying? I've seen some pretty sh#%ty looking DC-8's in the cargo world. Bunks? Ovens? Toilets? Catering? Thanks.

 

[DC8 Flyer]

How is the airplane set up for long haul flying? I've seen some pretty sh#%ty looking DC-8's in the cargo world. Bunks? Ovens? Toilets? Catering? Thanks.

No bunks (you get really good at sleeping while hanging in the should straps), there is an oven, catering is usually OK from the states and from my experience very good coming out of the other countries. One toilet, which by the way doesn't make 32 special forces guys very happy.

 

[NERVOUS]

How is the airplane set up for long haul flying? I've seen some pretty sh#%ty looking DC-8's in the cargo world. Bunks? Ovens? Toilets? Catering? Thanks.

No offense buddy,

But if your decision to join the long-haul crowd at 1,001 TT hinges upon the creature comforts of a 30+ year old aircraft, then I would personally recommend you stick it out till SWA calls you.

You're just not going to win over any freight dogs over here with that prima donna shtick about yucky old DC-8s.

 

[shiznitobam]

Sounds like a blast. Too bad it seems unstable. Old airplanes are the best airplanes. Are those bad johnnies the origional "fly by wire"?

 

[b707guy]

Gotta go with NERVOUS on that one. Creature comforts are minimal, and we're proud of that. No whining. Plenty of other things to whine about! Sometimes, we actually have ice for the cooler, too. No bunks, but we're limited to the 12/24, 20/48, 24/72 thing, and don't use any IROs or anything. We used to have a run where we carried an extra captain, but that was a while back and wouldn't fly now. Catering's the usual fare. Some pretty darn good, some not so. There aren't many underweight crewmembers here. OK, there aren't any.

Seriously, if those are even secondary factors in where you want to work, you're probably barking up the wrong tree.

Unfortunately, our ex-sub-gruntled Tasmanian mail boy above may be right about the hiring future. The situation is absolutely unforgivable, but that seems to be our direction in the short term.

 

[ERJFO]

No offense buddy,

But if your decision to join the long-haul crowd at 1,001 TT hinges upon the creature comforts of a 30+ year old aircraft, then I would personally recommend you stick it out till SWA calls you.

You're just not going to win over any freight dogs over here with that prima donna shtick about yucky old DC-8s.

Sounded like you intended it to be a little offensive, sorry - I was just curious. If it helps you out the last compleated page of my log book has me at just over 4000 hours, and that was 3 months ago. I didn't know that quick profile ment so much to some.

 

[haulingthemail]

Sounded like you intended it to be a little offensive, sorry - I was just curious. If it helps you out the last compleated page of my log book has me at just over 4000 hours, and that was 3 months ago. I didn't know that quick profile ment so much to some.

OOOOOOOOOOO, 4,000+ he's ready for the majors. Why waste your time with the freights, apply to Delta as a captain.

 

[NERVOUS]

Yeah...I guess I was a little hard on the beaver last night.

My apologies ERJFO

 

[Nolife]

Got the formal app yesterday. I'll put it in but I'm leary of being a temp... I have a family to feed. Hopefully they're serious about looking for long term folks.

 

[haulingthemail]

Got the formal app yesterday. I'll put it in but I'm leary of being a temp... I have a family to feed. Hopefully they're serious about looking for long term folks.

Ask around, there are still guy sout on furlough that are seriously thinking about not going back because ot the temp postion. they are short and need a few extra hands till the end of peak, then you'll be out on the street.