DayJet hires?

[DougsRule]

Is anyone on the property at DayJets yet?

 

[Publishers]

When you have no aircraft and no simulator, just what exactly would anyone be doing had they hired them.

 

[DougsRule]

When you have no aircraft and no simulator, just what exactly would anyone be doing had they hired them.

Same thing as Virgin America hires... nothing!

 

[saviboy]

2 crew operation or not?

Is it gonna be a 2 crew operation or not?

 

[johnsonrod]

Dayjet already has three Eclipses on property - check out their website:

http://www.dayjet.com/Services/DayJetFleet.aspx

Still looks pretty tight in that airplane. Most Americans are pretty obese too - it could be real tight with a few heavy people and a couple of bigger bags. I wonder about restrictions on suitcases, etc. Can pax only bring carry-on sized bags (note the pictures at the bottom of the web page).

Current pilot bases are Boca Raton and Pensacola I believe (Dayports) with more on the way. Regardless, Dayjet just closed another financing round to build out the infrastructure and train employees - another $50 million recently.

 

[APFPilot]

Dayjet already has three Eclipses on property - check out their website:

Where are they flying them considering they lost their IFR certification. It was pretty funny we had one come in the other day to do some demo flights after sun n' fun. When they were done they blasted out and did a max performace takeoff until about 3000 when they had to level off to miss a cloud.

 

[johnsonrod]

Where are they flying them considering they lost their IFR certification. It was pretty funny we had one come in the other day to do some demo flights after sun n' fun. When they were done they blasted out and did a max performace takeoff until about 3000 when they had to level off to miss a cloud.

Can you add some detail about losing their IFR certification? What have you heard?

I thought the Eclipses were getting an avionics retrofit/upgrade that would solve some of those problems? Perhaps they are now just working on training pilots (touch and go's, etc.)...

 

[cl_robster2481]

I heard that the IFR cert was removed temporily because the pitot tube is icing over or cloging with ice. Seems like they would have thought of that.

I looked in one the other day, vary small and cramped. Also, they are clogging up the airspace around the sunport with their slow approach speeds

 

[Downwind]

Also, they are clogging up the airspace around the sunport with their slow approach speeds

Like the 8 thousand C-172's in FL doing 70 knots 12 miles out?

 

[DougsRule]

Any word on pay or new "Day ports"?

 

[JimNtexas]

There are a lot of questions concerning the Elcipse's readiness for prime time. In particular they are not certified for known ice, IFR certification of the gps system, and for some reason they rarely fly at RSVM atlitudes.

I'm sure these issues will be worked out in the fullness of time, but will it be in time for Dayjets?

 

[On Your Six]

If I were Iabucci (DayJet founder) I would be pissed. Eclipse was so confident about launch dates and zero problems, etc. Summer season is approaching and FL business travelers will want to avoid the cramped airliners and jammed highways. This is a perfect time to get started and no dice on certification... Time is money...

 

[Publishers]

I did talk to a friend over the weekend who did get typed in the Eclipse and has been working on the training and flight manuals so they do have a few people.

 

[On Your Six]

I did talk to a friend over the weekend who did get typed in the Eclipse and has been working on the training and flight manuals so they do have a few people.

And.... How does he like the Eclipse? Fun/easy to fly? What is the latest estimate for a start date?

 

[dreamrunner1]

yes Dayjet is hiring.....

 

[d328pilot]

Pay info?

 

[dreamrunner1]

Pay!?!?!?!?!

Not sure..i assume you have heard something!?

 

[Windsor]

There is an Eclipse Type rating? Thought that was olny for 12,500 and up.

 

[CA1900]

There is an Eclipse Type rating? Thought that was olny for 12,500 and up.

Nope, all turbojets. FAR 61.31 should clarify that for you.

 

[johnsonrod]

Is it just me or is it odd that some of the major flying magazines (like Flying) have not done comprehensive articles test-flying the Eclipse? I saw one in ProPilot a year ago but ProPilot never writes negative articles about advertisers... I am sure Dayjet doesn't want any bad press about their sole aircraft type. I haven't seen any recent reviews of the Eclipse but a whole lot about the Mustang - now that's a nice little airplane!

 

[Smellycat]

If I were Iabucci (DayJet founder) I would be pissed.

FL business travelers will want to avoid the cramped airliners and jammed highways. ..

Ah reality check boyz. You have more room in a cramped airliner or even a Nissan 300Z than in an empty Eclipse. Them there Eclipse jets are tiny tiny TINY. Not to mention they cant fly in IFR and the wings are loose (but they fixed that.)

 

[johnsonrod]

Ah reality check boyz. You have more room in a cramped airliner or even a Nissan 300Z than in an empty Eclipse. Them there Eclipse jets are tiny tiny TINY. Not to mention they cant fly in IFR and the wings are loose (but they fixed that.)

Too bad most Americans are obese obese obese... Yeah, it will be a tight squeeze. Let's hope for 30-60 minute flights in those things. With that said, SATSair appears to be doing brisk business in Florida in the SR22 which is a relatively tight squeeze in the back too.

 

[Golden Falcon]

That airplane will be great for the personal owner/pilot, but it would appear it's success in commercial operations will be a bit limited....can it even reach rvsm altitudes with more than 2 people on board???

 

[jonjuan]

What happens when 2 pax are on board say from Pensacola to Tallahassee and pick up 2 more to Palm Beach and the first two pax have maxed out the cargo hold? Fist fights galore.
They must have been thinking of the "Jetsons" when they came up with this idea with this plane.

 

[On Your Six]

What happens when 2 pax are on board say from Pensacola to Tallahassee and pick up 2 more to Palm Beach and the first two pax have maxed out the cargo hold? Fist fights galore.
They must have been thinking of the "Jetsons" when they came up with this idea with this plane.

I wonder if the Adams 700 Jet would fare any better? Does it have more/adequate room for an air taxi operation? Interesting look though.

 

[Philerup]

If the air taxi is such a good idea, why hasn't it been done already? I would think you could buy a fleet of older Citations or King Airs for the price of an Eclipse and have a proven airframe with more room. With the Eclipse once you add fuel and two crew members you will not be able to carry very much for very far. I hope it works out for them, I really do, but for this late in the game the Eclipse should not be having these problems. Weren't they supposed to deliver 400 this year?

 

[dreamrunner1]

Ah reality check boyz. You have more room in a cramped airliner or even a Nissan 300Z than in an empty Eclipse. Them there Eclipse jets are tiny tiny TINY. Not to mention they cant fly in IFR and the wings are loose (but they fixed that.)

IFR??? Sure can, they are not yet certified for that...so i suppose you are correct. However they are working on it. As with any "EXPERIMENTIAL" it all takes time.....

 

[Groundskprwilly]

I hope Dayjet works, but I agree with the other posts. The weight is going to be an issue. I thought SATS Air had a limit on how much the pilot could weigh? The SR22 is acually pretty roomy in the back seat. I'm surprised that the public will get in a single engine piston.

 

[Publishers]

There are only 3 passenger seats in the Dayjet aircraft for all the reasons you pointed out.