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well i'm not sure why women want to change men. (too much free time-lol)
my philosophy has always been different. i don't want to change someone.
if we aren't compatible then we need to part ways.
there is a difference between compromising and changing, it's hard to tell the difference
between the two sometimes.



Dash8 said:
ok, i'll ask it,

ladies;
aileron, cubegirl, nik, resume, raven, aviatrix, and any others who's names i couldn't think of....

why is item 4 in minhs list true? what is it about women that they just can't leave well enough alone? i've often wondered about that, as i'm sure most of them other men here have done, any thoughts?
 
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Snakum said:
Try this ...

Walk by slowly while reading a non-descript printout, and softly say "God, I can't believe how much I've been paying in taxes since I hit six figures per year." and look at her with a slightly vulnerable smile.
Or try this ...
Stomp forcefully up to her while she's reading, pull the book from her hand and loudly say "Yo b!tch! How 'bouts a hummer?"

Or you could just tell her you're a pilot. I hear chicks really dig pilots. Well ... that's what I heard. :(

Snakum,
You are a charmer. Which approach works best for you?:rolleyes:
 
cubegirl7 said:
there is a difference between comprising and changing, it's hard to tell the difference
between the two sometimes.
Well said......

If you have to change someone you're with, why are you with them? Why were you attracted to them in the first place? My personal feeling is that if I want to modify someone's behaviour, I'll get a dog, not a guy.

Orginally posted by Thomas R
You have to have someone else who has seen you answer. ;)
Well I've seen him, and oh boy.......

J/K :p

Dash is good looking, well spoken, well educated, and funny. Were it not for the unfortunate 'tic' he has in his left eye, he'd be home free :eek:

:D
 
Well, my thoughts on the changing of men...

I do not try to change men. However, I think sometimes they are not telling someone all the facts. (this happens with women and men)

On the same token, I have had men try to change me. I am very upfront, letting them know that what they see if what they get. I am who I am 24/7 and if that is not what they want, then that is cool. I had one boyfriend about 5 years ago who wanted to change everything about me, including the clothes I wore and the car I drove! (everything in his life had to be designer, even if it broke him)

I think some people try to be what someone else wants them to be because they are afraid to be who they are. Maybe because they do not know who they are themselves. I know for myself that I have been told several things that are untrue, I have been made promises that have not been kept and I have had people misrepresent themselves. After a while, you get pretty keen to this kind of behavior, but sometimes you are still fooled.

I just try to learn something from every person I am involved with. I know that someday I will be rewarded with all the nonsense I have had to put up with! :D

Kathy
 
ThomasR said:
Dear Kathy[ResumeWriter] and Stephanie[ravengirl],

It happened again. I need a woman's perspective. The woman of my dreams walked into the library [I spend afternoons in a public library and evening in a medical library]. I looked up to see someone I have never seen before except in my day dreams; 5'10", light brown hair, hazel eyes, dressed in black and white solids, casual slacks and blouse, thin with a coordinated awkwardness about her, very long legs and a pixie hair cut [which is a bit short for me but I was willing to compromise when everything else was so right].

I saw her and I froze. My eyes got so wide I do believe they were bugging out slightly. She must have known I was attracted to her by the way I jerked to good posture and leaned immediately to her attention. But, I could not think of what to say. It was all so sudden.

This always happens. If I wasn't attracted I could chatter on like a monkey. But when I see someone I like my mind goes blank. What is wrong with me and what would you do if you were this 9.99 out of 10. Of course I know absolutely nothing about her and now I might never see her again [as usual].

She went about her business on the computer and left. I tried to follow her for a short distance hoping for an opportunity to exchange pleasantries that would create time for a more solid foot hold. But the opportunity never developed.

I know there is no picture of me onLine to formulate an opinion. But I have observed that everyone in aviation is well above an 8 on a 10 scale. That leaves any solid attraction to intrinsic values that can be obtain only by personal interaction or through a personal profile. All of which takes a certain amount of time to collect.

Does this happen to all men? And why do women not initiate contact? Do you have any "stop and pay attention" openers that you feel comfortable with? :cool:

I would have maybe walked behind her and made a comment about the website she was looking at. (if that is what she was doing) Perhaps you could have asked for her assistance with something you were doing on the computer. (even though you knew what you were doing) I would keep going to the library, you never know when she will show up again.

Those are just some examples of what you could do. I know I start conversations with people all the time based upon observations.

Kathy

Kathy
 
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"Do you have any "stop and pay attention" openers that you feel comfortable with?"

Nope, not really and whatever line you have heard works, doesn't. Honesty is the best line there is. Cna never go wrong with that or: "Hi, my name is Thomas and I could not help but notice you." Simple as that. She either indicates some sort of interest, we hope, or gives you the cold shoulder. If she was reading a book, as opposed to surfing porn, you could say great book, but only if you read it!!

Lines, or so I am told by my girlfriends, are a turnoff, but a nice hello will get you far. If you are just meeting, it is all about attraction, not about who you are as a person, that comes later.

Watch Hugh Grant, shy, a bit akward, but always get the girl. Yes, I would rather be Bond, but reality is, that most men are more like Hugh and less like Bond, as sad as that may be:)
 
"Do you have any "stop and pay attention" openers that you feel comfortable with?"

Nope, not really and whatever line you have heard works, doesn't. Honesty is the best line there is. Cna never go wrong with that or: "Hi, my name is Thomas and I could not help but notice you." Simple as that. She either indicates some sort of interest, we hope, or gives you the cold shoulder. If she was reading a book, as opposed to surfing porn, you could say great book, but only if you read it!!

Lines, or so I am told by my girlfriends, are a turnoff, but a nice hello will get you far. If you are just meeting, it is all about attraction, not about who you are as a person, that comes later.

Watch Hugh Grant, shy, a bit akward, but always get the girl. Yes, I would rather be Bond, but reality is, that most men are more like Hugh and less like Bond, as sad as that may be:)
 
Dizel8 said:
"Do you have any "stop and pay attention" openers that you feel comfortable with?"

*snipped*

Watch Hugh Grant, shy, a bit akward, but always get the girl. Yes, I would rather be Bond, but reality is, that most men are more like Hugh and less like Bond, as sad as that may be:)

yeah, but thats the movies bro...not real life, and the girls want to be deluded they're falling for the cool/normal guy instead of the suave debonair guy right? :D
 
Ailerongirl said:
Well said......
*snipped*
Well I've seen him, and oh boy.......

J/K :p

Dash is good looking, well spoken, well educated, and funny. Were it not for the unfortunate 'tic' he has in his left eye, he'd be home free :eek:

:D

oh please :rolleyes:
*blush* no ones believing that, but i appreciate it :)

i told you, new medication hadn't started working yet, its just a slight flutter now!:eek:
 
Ailerongirl said:
Okay, so to put it another way....maybe one that's more believable.....when it comes to you, I'd hit it.

:D

That's about the best compliment a guy can get.

Dash8 said:
uhm ok, well i know the meaning between guys of something like that, but....what about women folk?

It's all the same! US (guys) and them. We're just more vocal about it.
 
Dash8 said:
ok, i'll ask it,

ladies;
aileron, cubegirl, nik, resume, raven, aviatrix, and any others who's names i couldn't think of....

why is item 4 in minhs list true? what is it about women that they just can't leave well enough alone? i've often wondered about that, as i'm sure most of them other men here have done, any thoughts?

Well, it's not something I find myself doing anymore. I tried that game when I was younger (I'm only 22, but let's just go with it) and I learned two things: one, the person will not change and will in fact just find me annoying, and two, why should I date someone I feel the need to change? I shouldn't settle, I should seek out someone I don't need to alter to fit my specifications. It's not fair to either of us.

I see other women I know try this and it is usually hopeless...but we all have to learn it for ourselves, right?

Now, the only change I want out of my fiance is for him to quit smoking. And before I get lectured, it was his idea to quit and he brought up the topic. I just offer "reminders" and incentives ;)
 
Think about the post mentioning how meanings are always different between male and female, then consider this quote ...

I just offer "reminders" and incentives

What this really means is ... you ride his a$$ like $@#&ing Zorro twenty-four seven.

:D

See?

Minh
 
Snakum said:
Think about the post mentioning how meanings are always different between male and female, then consider this quote ...



What this really means is ... you ride his a$$ like $@#&ing Zorro twenty-four seven.

:D

See?

Minh

Oh no, you have it all wrong. I do that all the time anyway, it's too much fun not to ;)
 
Originally posted by Ravengirl quote:Originally posted by Snakum
Think about the post mentioning how meanings are always different between male and female, then consider this quote ...



What this really means is ... you ride his a$$ like $@#&ing Zorro twenty-four seven.



See?

Minh


Oh no, you have it all wrong. I do that all the time anyway, it's too much fun not to ;)

uhm...i really REALLY hope weren't not talking about 'pegging' here LOL
 

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