Dan Roman

[dalad]

I believe Ha owns 16 of 18 717's, 6 of the 767's, and 3 of the 330's. The rest are leased.

 

[Dan Roman]

Here's another thought. HA and DAL are the only? 717 operators in the U.S. Boeing just announced they are moving the 717 sim out of SEA to MIA. Perhaps we are trying to work a deal in that area. Hawaiian just purchased a new A330 sim that will be in HNL, so sim time is a high priority for us.

 

[Flyby1206]

Here's another thought. HA and DAL are the only? 717 operators in the U.S. Boeing just announced they are moving the 717 sim out of SEA to MIA. Perhaps we are trying to work a deal in that area. Hawaiian just purchased a new A330 sim that will be in HNL, so sim time is a high priority for us.

Or going with the 717 train of thought, could DAL be trying to work a deal to buy all the 717s? HA could replace their inter island flying with A319s (and Island Air ATRs) perhaps?

 

[Andy]

Page 25 of the annual report: 4 A330s, 7 767s, 15 717s, and 2 ATR-42 are owned.


Page 14: "At December 31, 2012, our total debt was $554.6 million, of which $489.8 million is fixed-rate debt."

Unrestricted cash and cash equivalents of $405.9 million.

HA's in good financial shape and not DAL's probably not looking to buy another carrier.

I'll go with the theory that DAL's looking for 717s.

 

[Dan Roman]

Interesting, it hadn't occurred to me but that makes sense. Do a 717 deal with DAL and get small Airbuses. HA has not been afraid of making bold moves of late.

 

[list2002]

HA getting their own sim is HUGE.

 

[list2002]

Will be very nice not to have to fly to the mainland for every training event.

 

[fam62c]

A Delta pilot told me that, even thought HA is cheep, HA does not own any of there aircraft. He said buying HA would be taking on a lot of debt. Any of this true ?

Why would an airline not own any aircraft?

If it fornicates, flies or floats........rent it!

 

[tomgoodman]

Why would an airline not own any aircraft?

Here's a brief explanation from one of the major players in airliner sale/leaseback deals:

http://www.wilmingtontrust.com/wtcom/index.jsp?fileid=3000125

 

[Dan Roman]

Will be very nice not to have to fly to the mainland for every training event.

Was told the savings more than pay for the sim