Dalton Departure - TEB

[sleepy]

LOL, light gun at TEB...that would rock! Do you think they even know where the thing is? I also wonder, is it possible to flash signals with an attitude?

It would just be easier to call them on the phone.

 

[Raskal]

It would just be easier to call them on the phone.

Yeah, but I fly hawkers so if an Airnet guy called they'd put me on hold...

 

[GVFlyer]

It would just be easier to call them on the phone.

We actually did that in a GIII.

The trip was from Tampa to Panama City, Panama. About an hour out of Tampa, the guy in the right seat slid his seat back and in so doing drove an improperly installed completion screw into a major wiring harness below the floorboard. All EFIS displays, NAV and COM radios and IRS's went South immediately.

Worse yet the alerting system gave indications of things that weren't happening, such as right engine fire and left main gear down.

A reciprocal heading got the jet back to Florida, but what to do next?

The answer was descend and call 911 on a cel phone. The 911 operator patched the call to approach control for the NORDO arrival. The gear was blown down, care was taken with failed anti-skid braking on an overweight airplane and a successful outcome was achieved.

GV

 

[drinkduff77]

Yeah, but I fly hawkers so if an Airnet guy called they'd put me on hold...

LOL. this is funny because I used to fly for airnet

 

[EdAtTheAirport]

Hey GV, I'm asked about the Dalton when I pick up my clearance. As I understand it, we are assigned a taxi time based on our Dalton status. Are you saying that they let you (non-Dalton) taxi out along with the rest of us, and that you get almost the same takeoff time? If so, this is the best TEB departure scam since WHITE intersection.

 

[murfdawg998]

Not to hijack but, I hate WHITE....intersection. They need another one, speaking of which; why won't they let you file over WAVEY going out of TEB. It is allowed @ JFK and HPN

Murf

 

[atcloser]

Not to hijack but, I hate WHITE....intersection. They need another one, speaking of which; why won't they let you file over WAVEY going out of TEB. It is allowed @ JFK and HPN

Murf

Because of airspace constraints and volume of traffic. WAVEY is JFK's major SE departure fix. All traffic going South uses WAVEY off JFK, which is quite a bit of traffic. A lot of FLorida traffic from LGA and HPN also use WAVEY. FRG uses it as well. To add TEB would oversaturate WAVEY as is there is ususally 15-25 miles in trail restrictions for it too. Furtrhermore getting a jet from TEB to WAVEY on a consistent basis would be chaos because of LGA arrivals and departures, JFK arrivals and departures, etc. It happens sometimes, but its usually a big production to make it work.

 

[EdAtTheAirport]

Hey ATC it's all magic to me how you guys do it. As long as you continue to keep the metal parts from clanking into each other, I guess we have to say "Good Job" no matter how long it takes.

 

[NGT]

When it works, it works great! When it doesn't work you are at 190kts, 1000-1200(AGL), VFR in New York airspace. Helicopters to MMU. GA between TEB/EWR/MMU/& CDW. Day or Night with visibility as low as 3 miles. Expect IFR means exactly that and on some occasions you can make it half way to MMU before they call you back. Do you carry VFR charts handy? Find the LOST COMM portion for Dalton Departure, if you do please post it. I'm not saying don't do it, I'm just saying I've done it enough times to not except unless it is an emergency for me!

You can takeoff Runway 15 at Aspen(with written permission from the airport manager) to get you out quicker. I don't recommend that one either!

Good Luck!!
http://www.teb.com/CommutingTravel/a...rtureRoute.pdf

 

[G100driver]

G-V, if you are told to slow to 190 while on vectors to the approach, do you not accept it?