DAL/NWA Combination....should regional guys be worried?

[DTW320]

See here is what you arrogant ********************s don't get. While yall were out selling scope for more money, and then giving up more scope and all of your money in bankruptcy, the regionals and regional pay were growing significantly. Now after 12 years at a regional or less you will be making over 100k per year with 15 to 17 days off per month, four weeks of vacation per year, and bidding from the top third of the senority list. So you see you arrogant prick, I could care less about how big your airplane is, and personally I would'nt work at Delta or NWA if they were the last airlines on the planet. You bastards make me sick with your attitudes. You gave away scope, you gave away money, and you call me less than you.

Wow. So what are you so ANGRY about then? I guess the legacies "selling scope" made it possible for you to have such an awesome contract and QOL.

You're Welcome.

DTW320
former "feeder" pilot
striving to become an "arrogant *************"
workin on the "bastard" certification

 

[PuffDriver]

See here is what you arrogant ********************s don't get. While yall were out selling scope for more money, and then giving up more scope and all of your money in bankruptcy, the regionals and regional pay were growing significantly. Now after 12 years at a regional or less you will be making over 100k per year with 15 to 17 days off per month, four weeks of vacation per year, and bidding from the top third of the senority list. So you see you arrogant prick, I could care less about how big your airplane is, and personally I would'nt work at Delta or NWA if they were the last airlines on the planet. You bastards make me sick with your attitudes. You gave away scope, you gave away money, and you call me less than you.

You are less than me for the sole reason that many others here are, you think that you have to prove your worth by revealing your great life. I could bury your stats up there with mine, but I don't need to because you know and I know it. The fact that your stats vs mine bothers you is why I am better.

PM me your name, and I'll see to it that you never HAVE to come work for Delta.

You guys need to get over your Napoleon complex. You feed the majors. You do so at subsidized rates. THAT is what pays your salary. I work at the name brand. The one that pays my salary, and the one that subsidizes your carrier in order to provide your living. It makes you no less men, it makes you no less pilots, it makes no less of a living. Deal with it and stop being crybabies.

 

[outtahere]

You are less than me for the sole reason that many others here are, you think that you have to prove your worth by revealing your great life. I could bury your stats up there with mine, but I don't need to because you know and I know it. The fact that your stats vs mine bothers you is why I am better.

PM me your name, and I'll see to it that you never HAVE to come work for Delta.

You guys need to get over your Napoleon complex. You feed the majors. You do so at subsidized rates. THAT is what pays your salary. I work at the name brand. The one that pays my salary, and the one that subsidizes your carrier in order to provide your living. It makes you no less men, it makes you no less pilots, it makes no less of a living. Deal with it and stop being crybabies.

I deal with it just fine, but as a man when someone insults me or my position in life as being below them it pisses me off. And exactly what stats do you have that are so dazzling? I'll gladly compare, I have seen a broad segment of the aviation industry, and have no problem squaring off with someone in a double brested ego suit. As I said, I have no problem with being a regional captain, I enjoy my job, but you or no one else will insult me or anyone in my postion and get away with out a scratch. Listen very carefully and try to follow along, I am no better than anyone else, but there is also no one better than me!

 

[jke406]

I enjoy my job, but you or no one else will insult me or anyone in my postion and get away with out a scratch.

Yeah, you really kicked the sh&t out of those guys here who "questioned your manhood." They're bleeding.

Look into some penile enhancement programs. Might help you conquer your "small man" complex. You might also try buying a jacked-up monster truck.

Sorry about your minuscule dong.

 

[PuffDriver]

I deal with it just fine, but as a man when someone insults me or my position in life as being below them it pisses me off. And exactly what stats do you have that are so dazzling? I'll gladly compare, I have seen a broad segment of the aviation industry, and have no problem squaring off with someone in a double brested ego suit. As I said, I have no problem with being a regional captain, I enjoy my job, but you or no one else will insult me or anyone in my postion and get away with out a scratch. Listen very carefully and try to follow along, I am no better than anyone else, but there is also no one better than me!

You keep on telling yourself that, and maybe you'll start to believe it. Nobody else has implied anything to the contrary. You are the one who has to put on here how much you make. You are the one who has to brag about your days off, you are the one who has to brag about your quality of life. It sounds like you are the one with something to prove, and that makes you less of a man.

I need not throw out my stats, I know and you know that they bury yours.

Ya gotta call em like you see em

P.S. If in your own strange way you were trying to thank the Delta pilots for allowing the explosive growth and prosperity you enjoy, you're welcome

 

[nc1982]

Dont mean to get in the way, but can we get back to the topic of the original thread. Say this merger does happen, what happens to Mesaba? Probably nothing for a few years but in the long run, what do you guys think will happen to Mesaba or Compass?

 

[PuffDriver]

Dont mean to get in the way, but can we get back to the topic of the original thread. Say this merger does happen, what happens to Mesaba? Probably nothing for a few years but in the long run, what do you guys think will happen to Mesaba or Compass?

You're not in the way at all. If the merger were to happen, I can say from the Delta standpoint that they love having multiple carriers doing the lift. I would imagine the status quo would prevail for longer than a few years. I would certainly hope that mesaba sticks around. It is a good airline, with good people.

 

[outtahere]

You keep on telling yourself that, and maybe you'll start to believe it. Nobody else has implied anything to the contrary. You are the one who has to put on here how much you make. You are the one who has to brag about your days off, you are the one who has to brag about your quality of life. It sounds like you are the one with something to prove, and that makes you less of a man.

I need not throw out my stats, I know and you know that they bury yours.

Ya gotta call em like you see em

P.S. If in your own strange way you were trying to thank the Delta pilots for allowing the explosive growth and prosperity you enjoy, you're welcome

OK first of all let me say I was not bragging about any of what you just stated, I was mearly pointing out that it is alot to walk away from to go make less money to fly a bigger airplane with a strong chance of fourlough. Secondly, what are these stats? You talk alot, but you're only burying yourself in bullsh!t.

 

[outtahere]

Yeah, you really kicked the sh&t out of those guys here who "questioned your manhood." They're bleeding.

Look into some penile enhancement programs. Might help you conquer your "small man" complex. You might also try buying a jacked-up monster truck.

Sorry about your minuscule dong.

Why are you so focused on my penise? Doctor Freud would like to talk to you and help you come out of the closet.

 

[blzr]

So, I'm going to rehijack this thread again.

Should the regional guys/gals be worried?

Still, the last two pages have been one heck of a p1ssing contest.

 

[jke406]

Should the regional guys/gals be worried?

Yes.

Any other questions?

 

[PuffDriver]

OK first of all let me say I was not bragging about any of what you just stated, I was mearly pointing out that it is alot to walk away from to go make less money to fly a bigger airplane with a strong chance of fourlough. Secondly, what are these stats? You talk alot, but you're only burying yourself in bullsh!t.

Mentioning it is indeed bragging. The stats I am referring to are those such as pay stubs, time off, vacation, etc. Mine are better, and I've been here less than 12.

 

[Lear70]

So, I'm going to rehijack this thread again.

Should the regional guys/gals be worried?

Nope. Here's why:

The Legacy carriers' management teams have learned VERY well over the last decade that having multiple regional partners helps keeps costs down, and keeps pilots bickering amongst themselves too much to actually formulate any real solidarity (hence the term "whipsaw") .

Additionally, having multiple regional carriers ensures that if any ONE carrier DOES grow a set, that the impact of a strike, even a prolonged one, is survivable with ADVANCE ramp-up of service by other regional partners then asset shifting if done quickly.

Third, they are NOT going to put a DC-9 or an MD-80 on MSP-GTF or MSP-PIH (Great Falls, MT or Pocatella, ID). You *MIGHT* lose some hub-to-hub routes and flying to larger cities like BOS, etc, but those smaller cities will still require feed and, by and large, that's what the regional carriers do.

Lastly, those service contracts are in effect for a long time to come, and they've signed purchase agreements for a LOT of RJ's they still want to take delivery of.

You might get some re-shuffling and some seniority list stagnation for 6 months or so, but the regional carriers aren't going anywhere...

Unless the mainline guys negotiate STRONGER scope back into their agreements, and they're too focused on recouping wages, retirement, and work rules this time around to worry that much about scope.

 

[motch]

Of course Regionals should be worried...

1) There are probably some city pairings where both Legacy Carriers use regionals to fly inbetween. Between IAD and EWR both CAL and UAL fly RJ's to connect these cities. In a merger, there would be no reason to fly 5 flights by UALX and 4 flights by XJT when it can be accomplished by 6 mainline flights.

2) The 50 seat RJ is a gas hog. I can see the new merged carriers looking at replacing x amount of 50 seat feed with y amount of 70 seat feed. (except at CAL>> we have scope and will fight to the end to protect it!) Compass at NWA will definitely add a new twist in a merger because it would make sense to grow that company to replace city pairs where the above (1) takes place.

While I no longer fly for a regional carrier, I still have friends there and do think it will be alittle tougher for them in the future. Don't see an immeadiate reduction, but would imagine that hiring will slow down due to furture reductions and realignments. Upgrades will hopefully continue cause the Legacy's are still going to be hiring... but that too will end by next year if the mergers come to reality.

Either way, it's gonna be an interesting year in the airline industry!

 

[737 Pylt]

Why are you so focused on my penise? Doctor Freud would like to talk to you and help you come out of the closet.

Becasue jerk406 doesn't get much time off her back!
This is the same girl posting as tanker clown and jmoney! Just put this "jerk" on your ignore list. She adds nothing to the conversation. Kind of like when she's on the job!

737