DAL NWA arbitration

[FBN0223]

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080319/delta_northwest.html?.v=1

 

[Noserider76]

The main point of this exercise was to get something for the pilot group out of the merger. Why would the company give the equity and contract benefits to the combined group only to see the thing go to arbitration and begin the slide into the US/AWA scenario they hoped to avoid by offering the upfront benefits in the first place? Why would we want that either? Seems like a miserable place to work from the outside.

 

[Fly4hire]

Until the BOD's announce a deal and it's the only option left.....

Delta Pilots Nix Arbitration Suggestion


Wednesday March 19, 12:40 pm ET
By Harry R. Weber, AP Business Writer Delta Pilots Reject Arbitration With Northwest Pilots to Ease Combination of the Carriers

ATLANTA (AP) -- Delta Air Lines Inc.'s pilots union rejected Wednesday the idea of submitting to arbitration with their counterparts at Northwest Airlines Corp. to break their impasse over integrating seniority lists as part of a possible combination of the carriers.

"In short, there will be no binding arbitration," Lee Moak, head of Delta's pilots union, said in an e-mail to The Associated Press. Pilot union leaders at Northwest had suggested in a memo to rank-and-file Northwest pilots on Tuesday that arbitration may be a way to break the deadlock. Traditionally, arbitration in these situations is binding. The memo said that "if management feels the time is now for consolidation, they would be wise to encourage both pilot groups to accept expedited arbitration

 

[General Lee]

Steenland will make sure you pay for not playing. Your guys are just realizing this. You just took away his BIGGEST payday. In some ways you are saying "hey guys, why don't you call anymore? Don't you still like us??" You need to change your stance, or don't call. The boards want harmony and not what USAir has. Anderson realizes that too.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[DTW320]

You just took away his BIGGEST payday

Yeah, the one that came with the BIGGEST seniority screwjob. Seniority....you know Robert....that thing that you are left with when the money is taken away at the drop of a DAL announcement. Like the furlough protection that was already agreed to in the "talks" that was then pulled off the table by RA. YCLIU

Never forget....we know RA A LOT better than you do.

 

[FBN0223]

Steenland will make sure you pay for not playing. Your guys are just realizing this. You just took away his BIGGEST payday. In some ways you are saying "hey guys, why don't you call anymore? Don't you still like us??" You need to change your stance, or don't call. The boards want harmony and not what USAir has. Anderson realizes that too.


Bye Bye--General Lee

The fact that NWALPA would seek arbitration tells me that the NW and DL pilots were never close to an agreement on seniority integration and the fact the DL wants nothing to do with arbitration suggests that DL is/was too greedy with their seniority integration proposals.

 

[Occam's Razor]

YCLIU

Oh, man!

Here I'm in ALPA Web Board "recovery"...and you give me a beer!

:beer:

 

[DTW320]

Oh, man!

Here I'm in ALPA Web Board "recovery"...and you give me a beer!

:beer:

Yeah, I picked that up somewhere..

:beer:

 

[General Lee]

Yeah, the one that came with the BIGGEST seniority screwjob. Seniority....you know Robert....that thing that you are left with when the money is taken away at the drop of a DAL announcement. Like the furlough protection that was already agreed to in the "talks" that was then pulled off the table by RA. YCLIU

Never forget....we know RA A LOT better than you do.

Hey, I do just fine regardless. It is your group that keeps coming back for more. Why is that? They must see something from Steenland that makes them look for alternatives. Or, the group itself is pressuring the Greenbook types to rethink their stance. We wouldn't accept any deal that doesn't have furlough protection, and Anderson knows that. Yeah, you know Anderson, and would love to have him over Steenland.

And YCLIU---well, YCGFY.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

The fact that NWALPA would seek arbitration tells me that the NW and DL pilots were never close to an agreement on seniority integration and the fact the DL wants nothing to do with arbitration suggests that DL is/was too greedy with their seniority integration proposals.

Or they caught an "East Infection" from the Easties at USAir. Entitlement is meant for Royalty, not DC9 drivers in Grand Forks.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Redmeat]

The boards want harmony and not what USAir has. Anderson realizes that too.
Bye Bye--General Lee

BlhhhAAHHhhh!!!

Sh1t I just spit beer all over the damn monitor LOL!!!

The boards want MONEY...you tool!

Nothing more nothing less.

'Harmony'...GOOD ONE!

The USairways pilot debacle has left MILLIONS on the table that would have gone to pilots with a joint contract but instead has been left for management and share holders.

TOOL.

 

[General Lee]

BlhhhAAHHhhh!!!

Sh1t I just spit beer all over the damn monitor LOL!!!

The boards want MONEY...you tool!

Nothing more nothing less.

'Harmony'...GOOD ONE!

The USairways pilot debacle has left MILLIONS on the table that would have gone to pilots with a joint contract but instead has been left for management and share holders.

TOOL.

You may be right, but Anderson, the guy who would be running the show, wants harmony, and he probably placated the board by even allowing the talks to begin. He knows about seniority and how important it is---he fought with Steenland to get it in a combined carrier. (didn't want Steenland as Chairman of the Board)

And TOOL, how have the Shareholders done at USAir? Seen the latest stock price? You call me a tool? Wow. Thanks Cramer. USAir is now seeking a partner, and hopefully it will be you fools at NWA, unless you keep calling us.... Quit calling us and pull out your charts, your Diesel 9 to STL is waiting....


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[DTW320]

Hey, I do just fine regardless. It is your group that keeps coming back for more. Why is that? They must see something from Steenland that makes them look for alternatives. Or, the group itself is pressuring the Greenbook types to rethink their stance. We wouldn't accept any deal that doesn't have furlough protection, and Anderson knows that. Yeah, you know Anderson, and would love to have him over Steenland.

And YCLIU---well, YCGFY.


Bye Bye--General Lee

OK, so you don't know what YCLIU means....no problem...You Could Look It Up. Either that or your acronym is, alas, yet another example of a foul-mouthed, low class DAL pilot who has to resort to crap like that in lieu of substance. Hmmmm I wonder which it is...

As for the rest, pure drivel. The only pressure from the NWA pilots is from the applause they are giving the MEC for resisting admittedly attractive $$ incentives in favor of NOT screwing the pooch on seniority.

All you deltoids here have stated that the merger would be a good thing.....create an industry powerhouse etc. You've also stated that your "take it or leave it" offer on SLI was fair and reasonable to everyone. IF you TRULY believe all that, then why not go to expedited arbitration? What could you possibly lose? The arbitrator would obviously be dazzled by the brilliant fairness of your position and rubber stamp it right? Instead DALPA runs away scared and says "our way or the highway". Hmmmmm.....something smells funny......and it's not the Lutefisk.

 

[Redmeat]

And TOOL, how have the Shareholders done at USAir? Seen the latest stock price? You call me a tool? Wow.

Bye Bye--General Lee

Yeah...have you seen the latest stock price at ANY airline 'lately'?

NEWS FLASH...we're going into the sh1ter again fella.

Usairways made money off that merger for 5 years. So much so they almost bought your dumb a$$es.