DAL Furlough Protection

[80drvr]

Question for DAL guys...what is the current status of the furlough protection situation and the arbitration award?

 

[no_land_3]

The last I heard is that written rebuttal briefs will be handed to the arbitrator by both sides on Jan 16th. It could take 1 day or 6 months for him to render a decision. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for the back pay.

land_on_3
nice to be back on the DL payroll

 

[General Lee]

We still have the No Furlough Clause and there are NO plans to give that up at all. Paycuts--maybe---and some beanies like per diem etc.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[UpNDownGuy]

Really?

General- I must be misunderstanding your last post....you don't mean to say that DAL will give up per diem? Do you mean that you would have a drop in per diem, or maybe forgo a scheduled increase?

 

[General Lee]

Not give up per diem, but bring it down a little. I believe we get $2.10 an hour--and that is for 7600 pilots and 14,000 flight attendants. (I think $2.30 for INTL) That is just something I keep hearing in the lounge.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Networ-King]

80drv,

To answer your original post..... there is no such thing as a furlough protection..... hence the 1060 on furlough now......... don't let anyone tell you different.

 

[80drvr]

80drv,

To answer your original post..... there is no such thing as a furlough protection..... hence the 1060 on furlough now......... don't let anyone tell you different.

Actually I was looking for information on implimentation of the aribitrators ruling upholding DAL furlough protection. Apparently 250 guys have been or will be recalled. I'd agree that furlough protection is useless if your union rolls over on the issue as APA did at the first hint of trouble. DALPA appears to have taken a bolder stance that is at least paying some dividends.

 

[spanky2]

For everyone's education...There are / were 2 groups of furloughees at DAL due to "force majeur" as the contract / company calls it. The FMI group (1060 pilots) began in Nov 01 and ended Jan 02 when arbitrator ordered DAL to stop after several court appearances. The recall of these 1060 pilots would be tied to a RPM trigger...rolling time frame when current RPMs equal or exceed same time frame prior to 9-11. Due to cuts in capacity and schedule by DAL, this trigger is not optimistic until there is some growth.
The FMII group (250 pilots) occurred due to Gulf War II. They have been recalled by DAL as of Dec 03. The last 160 of these pilots were "unassigned" but getting paid. ALPA is still pressing with the grievance on the FMII group for back pay and seat regression. Many of us think they were recalled by DAL cause the company might lose the grievance and were taking the lesser of 2 evils. This process is p a i n f u l l y s l o w. A final hearing was held in Dec with submissions of briefings next week and then still have to wait for arbitrator ruling...could be a week, could be many months.

DAL has submitted, in recent talks, request for furlough relief. Has not stopped them so far but would just make it easier, I guess, to furlough pilots in the future. We hope ALPA does not roll on this issue.

Spanky2 - FMI member

 

[General Lee]

Spanky2,

I have heard from our MEC Chairman that the "No Furlough Clause" will NOT be a future concession. Now I don't know about raising the CAP, but I have heard that it would not be just an arbitrary raising of the CAP, but one that would be raised slowly with the return of some furloughs or the addition of block hours at Delta---thus bringing back some furloughs. I hope you all return ASAP.

Bye Bye--General Lee