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[N2264J]

RAH did NOT bid on current OH flying. Get it right.

Yeah, I'd say Republic/Chautauqua/Shuttle America/Wexford has been bidding on Comair flying and apparently getting some. If I remember correctly, who's parking at terminal A is what started this thread. Perhaps I'm not being precise enough by failing to state that Republic Holdings owns Chautauqua.

Anyway, which subsidiary or holding company it goes to is really beside the point.

 

[WMUSIGPI]

The 170 has been at CVG before. When they started the Delta operation they did a CVG-DTW flight. I'm fairly certain they didn't park at the "C" concourse. There are plenty of gates at "A" they could use.

Yup Shuttle America used to run a morning flight from CVG to DTW then on to SLC back in late '05 or early '06. Much nicer ride home than on Pinnacle. Not quite as nice as the ride on the Avro. Course they all beat walking.

 

[V-1]

On another note, the TA will probably net me more money over the life of the contract than the 2005 LOA would have. This is good for me, but anyone hired after the effective claim date is getting screwed. This is not something I'm comfortable with. It's very short sighted, because we have effectively added another split to the already split pilot group (Captains and FOs). When contract negotiations 2011 take place most (or at least a huge contingent) of the pilot group will have been hired post TA. You can bet they will have no interest in making Comair a better place to work long term, so you can forget about getting a better retirement program, as the new people will want higher wages. I digress.

The latest agreement is substantially better than the one agreed to in 2006. Better than the one agreed to in 2005 is questionable (assuming all terms had been complied with by the company)...but not really important since some degree of concessions were going to occur one way or another due to actions by Delta/Comair and a bankruptcy judge in New York.

Those who are considering employment at Comair should be aware of the contract they're agreeing to work under. If they choose employment at Comair under the agreement in place at the start of their employment there is no damage done to them. The damage done is to those who agreed to do the job under conditions negotiated prior to bankruptcy. A future pilot candidate can easily say "no thanks" to the job offer with nothing to lose. In addition, those who accept employment at Comair today aren't faced with a longevity freeze...as are those who've worked for Comair over the last fifteen years.

I don't see how anyone who hasn't yet invested a minute of their time working for Comair is "getting screwed" by accepting a job with pay and workrules known in advance. Those who were offered a job paying X and six months, two years, ten years later told "We're only going to pay you Y now." are the ones who have been damaged by the new agreement.

As I've wrote before, any pilot now considering employment at Comair must do so with his/her eyes wide open.

 

[DrewBlows]

I don't see how anyone who hasn't yet invested a minute of their time working for Comair is "getting screwed" by accepting a job with pay and workrules known in advance. Those who were offered a job paying X and six months, two years, ten years later told "We're only going to pay you Y now." are the ones who have been damaged by the new agreement.

As I've wrote before, any pilot now considering employment at Comair must do so with his/her eyes wide open.

Any new hire getting screwed is secondary to the fact that in future negotiations their vote will count just the same as yours or mine, but their interest will not necessarily be the same as ours. While we will have a nice chunk of change in our retirement accounts a new hire will have nothing and will not necessarily have an interest in negotiating a new retirement plan. My point is that we have negotiated another divide in our pilot group. Is it as bad as an "A" plan/ "B" plan? I don't know, but there is definitely a divide.