Current King Air B200 pilots

[G200_PILOT]

I almost PM the contact of pilots who could have easily done that. I'm glad I didn't. I'd probably have to call everyone of them and apologize.

Next time you're trying to do something professional, act like one. With your attitude it no wonder you have to come here to find a pilot.

I signed up to this forum last week for one reason, to find some good guys who want to fly. I found them. I received some great phone calls and some great emails. I thank those men that I talked to. But this place isn't any different from any other forum. For the most part, it's a bunch of idiots acting tough. I have a proble with one person on here and you choose to jump in and question what kind of person I am? Give me a break. If you posted a thread looking for some guys to work with and some asshole comes along and makes smartass comments, and then follows you around to every post you reply to and keeps making comments, you'd do the same thing and you know it. You have no idea what kind of person I am. I'm accually a lot of fun to work with because I make damn sure that all my guys are very well taken care of. I made a mistake and posted that I'd pay $1500 for a pilot to work PART TIME. That's 4 to 5 days a month. That comes out to $300 a day which is very reasonable for a King Air. This guy makes a big deal out of it and tries to make it seem as if I'm trying to cheat someone out of what they're worth. $1500 for up to 5 days of flying isn't bad at all. That what this whole thing comes down to. I'm sorry you don't think so.

 

[PaulThomas]

I signed up to this forum last week for one reason, to find some good guys who want to fly. I found them. I received some great phone calls and some great emails. I thank those men that I talked to. But this place isn't any different from any other forum. For the most part, it's a bunch of idiots acting tough. I have a proble with one person on here and you choose to jump in and question what kind of person I am? Give me a break. If you posted a thread looking for some guys to work with and some asshole comes along and makes smartass comments, and then follows you around to every post you reply to and keeps making comments, you'd do the same thing and you know it. You have no idea what kind of person I am. I'm accually a lot of fun to work with because I make dang sure that all my guys are very well taken care of. I made a mistake and posted that I'd pay $1500 for a pilot to work PART TIME. That's 4 to 5 days a month. That comes out to $300 a day which is very reasonable for a King Air. This guy makes a big deal out of it and tries to make it seem as if I'm trying to cheat someone out of what they're worth. $1500 for up to 5 days of flying isn't bad at all. That what this whole thing comes down to. I'm sorry you don't think so.

You're not getting the point. Avbug's attitude has nothing to do with it. What he may or may not have done has nothing to do with it. It's not because some "asshole comes along and makes smartass comments", that you have to act the way you did. If you perceive that a passenger is disrespectful to you, are you going to be disrespectful to him?

As I said before, you presented a professional working opportunity, but in the same thread acted like a teenage girl fighting over nothing. I'm glad you got some people to fill the job. Next time you place an add, state that question will only be answered by PM. This way if any one ask any tough questions, you can ignore them. Just make sure you keep you mouth shut this way you won't get into situations like these where you can't win (not that you'd want to win it anyways )

 

[MVSW]

350 a day for a King Air??? WTF I think thats umm... a Baron rate??

 

[Flyingdutchman]

Im wit NJP on thins one.. 350 a day is not a bad rate for a BE-200 captain.. Not great, but not bad at all. Part 91 that is.

 

[avbug]

But this place isn't any different from any other forum. For the most part, it's a bunch of idiots acting tough. I have a proble with one person on here and you choose to jump in and question what kind of person I am? Give me a break. If you posted a thread looking for some guys to work with and some asshole comes along and makes smartass comments, and then follows you around to every post you reply to and keeps making comments, you'd do the same thing and you know it. You have no idea what kind of person I am.

Actually, we have a really good idea what kind of person you are. The kind of person that flies off the handle making threats...just like this one...

Tell you what. If you're such a tough guy, why don't you email me your name. Just your name, nothing else. But you have to be honest about it. That way, when your airplane gets sold out from underneath you because your boss decided to goto to NetJets or dies, or goes out of business.... I'll remember your name when you apply and come in for an interview. You see, this is a small industry. We all win run into one another someday. If you're man enough to give me your name, I feel sorry for you if you ever think of applying to us or say... Southwest. You see, Southwest is full of ex-Netjets pilots and once a name is put on that blacklist, you're done.

You sound like a SCAB or a potential SCAB to me by making comments about a brother picketing for what he believes in.

So how about it? Got balls?

Just the kind of person anybody would be thrilled to work for. Sort of a meet-me-out-behind-the-schoolhouse juvinile childish mentality. Just what I'd expect from you, netjet boy. Nothing more. Pathetic...and you have the arrogance to accuse others of having an "attitude problem."

Perhaps you ought to step off your high horse and think that one day you may be the one who comes crawling for a job...you're right. It's a small industry. You sound like a clicquish gang member, daring others to step on your turf. Don't forget, one day you might just be off that turf...probably not such a hot idea to spout off like you do. In the industry, it could hurt your career.

On the street, that sort of attitude will bloody your nose. Or worse.

Grow up a little.

Check that.

Grow up, a lot.

 

[Snakum]

But this place isn't any different from any other forum. For the most part, it's a bunch of idiots

Well ... I'm afraid he's got us there.

Minh
D)

 

[CapnVegetto]

350 a day for a King Air??? WTF I think thats umm... a Baron rate??

Not in Florida. For some reason, employers in Florida think they should pay less because you have the honor and privilige of living in Florida.

 

[G200_PILOT]

Not in Florida. For some reason, employers in Florida think they should pay less because you have the honor and privilige of living in Florida.

That's not true at all. It has nothing to do with the fact that it's in FL. I called around to approx. 10 King Air operators that I know through friends that are located in different parts of the US. The highest daily rate I found was $450 and the lowest was $200. Now granted, $200 is way too low but $450 was from a guy who has over 9,000 hours in a B200. For that amount, he also pays for his own meals. I'm offering $350 with all expenses included. All together, I end up paying out about $400 a day. Again, that's not bad at all. The owner has also stated that the pilot will get a $100 tip for every trip/day. I'm sorry, but a guy who flies a King Air for one day and walks away with $450 in his pocket and gets taken care of as far as food, hotels, and rental cars... it"s not a bad deal at all. I have two guys that fly King Airs up in Orlando (3 hrs away) and they're excited about driving down and helping out. They're not new to this and they think it's a great deal. I am trying to make this as fair as possible for everybody involved.

Like I said before, I'm not looking for a full time guy. I'm looking for someone who may want to fly a couple days a month and make some extra beer money or a car payment. Nothing too back breaking.

I just can't see where this has turned into such a big deal. Bottom line is that I have found some really good guys to help out so I'm done here with this post. To all that called, thank you for your willingness to help out. To those who have a problem with the way I handled myself with AVBUG, I'm sorry but I just don't put up with crap like that. I don't have to.

 

[avbug]

To those who have a problem with the way I handled myself with AVBUG, I'm sorry but I just don't put up with crap like that. I don't have to.

Yeah, you do. When you join the board and come out making threats and swinging, with a chip on your shoulder from the get-go, you have it coming, and yes, you do have to take it, and take it you will.

It goes hand in hand with being the ass you've proven to be.

I told you after you changed the offering that I didn't have a problem with the price...but you wouldn't let it go, started threatening me, threatening others. Challenging me to meet you off duty (again, a place you REALLY don't want to go) to have it out, theatening other pilots with being blacklisted for life for making an off-hand comment to you.

Then there's the arrogance, the haughty belief that you have the capability to destroy other pilot's lives, as you've posted and as I've quoted you here as saying...your utter superiority, netjet boy, is prideful and foolish, and as said before, quite childish. More over, with your arrogant arguementative threatening attitude, you have the smugness to accuse others, namely myself, of having a bad attitude, when it truth it's all about you.

Perhaps you really do belong back on the picket line, or spreading poison at a Signature FBO somewhere. I pity the person that works for you.

 

[Beechjetr]

A straight daily rate of 350 a day is decent for a King Air 200. But what is the on call schedule like? What is the heads up time? Is it really a straight daily rate, or is the pilot expected to be ready anytime during those 2 weeks a month? And I'd bet everyone questioning $350 a day already has a job.

 

[pilothouston123]

you can fly me in from houston and I will fly for 350 a day but I will only stay if I get 350 a day for every day in Fla.

 

[350DRIVER]

$350.00 a day plus all expenses, wow that is quite impressive. Sounds like a first class owner and judging by your responses, your attitude, etc, I am sure many would be extremely thrilled to have such the opportunity present day. You surely must be swamped by the emails, phone calls, etc, so I am sure you won't have any problem whatsoever filling such a magnificant position.

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ps> as a side note quite a few operators in that region will pay in the $450.00-$475.00 range per day

 

[G200_PILOT]

A straight daily rate of 350 a day is decent for a King Air 200. But what is the on call schedule like? What is the heads up time? Is it really a straight daily rate, or is the pilot expected to be ready anytime during those 2 weeks a month? And I'd bet everyone questioning $350 a day already has a job.

The owner normaly makes his plans about two weeks in advance. There has been one time where he called me late in the afternoon wanting to go golfing the next morning. Wasn't a problem because I was in town. This isn't your normal everyday owner. He uses this airplane once in a while and only for fun. Right now, I have 3 guys in town and 1 guy out of town that are flying it when I'm gone. That's more than enough concidering the fact that the airplane doesn't fly every week that I'm out of town.

 

[G200_PILOT]

Yeah, you do. When you join the board and come out making threats and swinging, with a chip on your shoulder from the get-go, you have it coming, and yes, you do have to take it, and take it you will.

It goes hand in hand with being the ass you've proven to be.

I told you after you changed the offering that I didn't have a problem with the price...but you wouldn't let it go, started threatening me, threatening others. Challenging me to meet you off duty (again, a place you REALLY don't want to go) to have it out, theatening other pilots with being blacklisted for life for making an off-hand comment to you.

Then there's the arrogance, the haughty belief that you have the capability to destroy other pilot's lives, as you've posted and as I've quoted you here as saying...your utter superiority, netjet boy, is prideful and foolish, and as said before, quite childish. More over, with your arrogant arguementative threatening attitude, you have the smugness to accuse others, namely myself, of having a bad attitude, when it truth it's all about you.

Perhaps you really do belong back on the picket line, or spreading poison at a Signature FBO somewhere. I pity the person that works for you.

First bold comment: Let it go? I responded to your reply with a thank you. I then replied to a post about compressor stalls and gave a funny answer. It was at THAT point that YOU made the comment about me being a NetJets pilot and that I should leave this forum and join a picket line somewhere. What was the point of making that comment? You try to make yourself out to be such a great guy and me... well I'm just an asshole. Because I told you go mind your own business??? What did you really expect me to do? I really don't understand why you're trying to act like the good guy here. You know you antagonized me and you also knew that you would get this type of response.

Second bold comment: Look, I am so tired of going around and around with you. I gave you the chance to handle this like a man. I told you to PM me and we'd figure something out. Don't sit there and act like an angle because a few people on this forum are on your side. If anyone here likes to start trouble, it's you sir. So handle it like a man. Don't just keep sitting there acting like your crap don't stink.

 

[MVSW]

I know this is NONE of my business but guy let it GO!!! Please I dont think anyone of us get on here and what to read bitching. If I wanted to hear bitching I would call my Ex- Girlfriend over!! Good Day