Curious

[Diesel]

Wow boys and girls let's take a little look ath what bridgeway is saying and what is actually going on in the real world.

Dsptchr says-

115 to date maybe - the 400-500 figure was by years end. Most of our a/c deliveries won't be until early fall.

1st the UA guys that are coming here that have 15k are the most militant of the group. They have been there and they know how the system works. Sure there are a few ex airline guys coming here but they don't last long. Flew with a guy the other day that was leaving after 4 months here. Just didn't need the crap.

So they have a net of 115 pilots. I believe thats a little on the high side. You should take a look at some of the people that are on the senority list who have left. They are guys and gals that are very senior and very junior. Pretty amazing numbers.

G4- Go ahead and fire me. Oh wait i don't work for you. hahaaaa good laugh though.

 

[dsptchrnja]

1st the UA guys that are coming here that have 15k are the most militant of the group. They have been there and they know how the system works....

So how many UA pilots, hired this year, have you personally met that actaully fit this catagory? I only ask because the subject of their motives actually came up in our conversation and it had nothing to do with pay, unions, or anything political - they "just want to fly."

 

[FLYLOW22]

So how many UA pilots, hired this year, have you personally met that actaully fit this catagory? I only ask because the subject of their motives actually came up in our conversation and it had nothing to do with pay, unions, or anything political - they "just want to fly."

How many? Umm... Let me think... ALL OF THEM!

UAL pilots come from some of the proudest aviator backgrounds on the planet. Legacy Airline pilots (now retired) are not the group to be looking at with the spyglass.

They have, in fact, been some of the most helpful NJA Pilots by either holding the spyglass themselves or offering advice as to hold the spyglass in a better way.

There is NO doubt in my mind that retired airline pilots will go the distance and prove to be some of the best conditioned for this marathon.

If we had hats, my hat would be off to them.

 

[On Your Six]

So how many UA pilots, hired this year, have you personally met that actaully fit this catagory? I only ask because the subject of their motives actually came up in our conversation and it had nothing to do with pay, unions, or anything political - they "just want to fly."

I am former UAL and you bet that I would lead the call if I were there at NJA (I am not). I am very pro-union and you can be sure that I (in addition to my former co-workers) would be involved if given the opportunity.

 

[El Chupacabra]

Six,

Some of the same leadership that ran the Strike at UAL in 1985 are key players in our efforts now. See http://www.fracpilot.com/fromwoodenwings.pdf .

 

[FredGarvin]

Some of the same leadership that ran the Strike at UAL in 1985 are key players in our efforts now.

Wow, I can't wait till we have pay cuts, furloughs, bankruptcy and a really shaky future, just like the big guys.

 

[El Chupacabra]

Wow, I can't wait till we have pay cuts, furloughs, bankruptcy and a really shaky future, just like the big guys.

Fred that's all a management function.

 

[Majik]

Wow, I can't wait till we have pay cuts, furloughs, bankruptcy and a really shaky future, just like the big guys.

Every employee at United (including CEOs) could have worked for free the year preceeding 9/11 and the company would still have lost money. Care to make another false assumption?

 

[100-1/2]

Did someone say, "a 5 year degree in Meteorology from OSU?"

Alright, now everyone must bow to, his "atoritee"!

100-1/2

 

[FredGarvin]

Fred that's all a management function.

Every employee at United (including CEOs) could have worked for free the year preceeding 9/11 and the company would still have lost money.

OK which is it?

Bad, evil non-pilot management:

"The pilots and the Machinists each have seats on the board of directors of United's parent company, UAL Corp., as do salaried employees. Through supermajority voting provisions the two unions have veto authority over major transactions, their directors sit on the board's most important committees, and they effectively select the company's top executives."

or, Nobody could make a profit after 9/11?

see: JetBlue, SWA, NetJets

Can't see how it could be both ways...but then again with my "5 year degree in Meteorology from OSU" I'm not smart enough to program the FMS.