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cuban overflight permit

scubabri

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Does anyone have the information to get a cuban overflight permit? I've done it before, I contacted the cuba gov directly, but I can't seem to find the fax number I used.

If anyone has the Bahamas Carib guide, I know the info is in there, but I am not near my book

I'm in the caymans now and our customer might want to get family out of the way of Emily and over cuba is the fastest way.

thanks,

sb
 
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I did it once for a flight simulation flight, seriously. The lady on the phone seemed a bit annoyed that I was just some dumb AMERICAN kid called her to ask what the Cuban overflight rules were.

SERIOUSLY.
 

jrod

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I've always used a handler to setup the overflight permit. Swing by the people at Island Air and they should have the contact info for you.
 
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I get one every year I fly down there, call the Owen Roberts Tower and get one for 10 bucks. I have the giuide but you don't need it for that, PM me if all else fails.

So far after 6 trips, I never paid a dime, they seem to not care to collect.
 

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Last time we did this (about year and half ago), the Cayman General Avaition Directorate did it for us, about 24-48 hours notice. Number is in the International Flight Manual, we had to fax them (Grand Cayman) a request for overflight and they forwarded to Castro. It was approved in a day or two, but it was good for only that zulu day for the trip overflight.

Best bet a handler; but at the time I was working for a cheap Part 91 operator and they wouldn't spend an extra nickel for a handler.
 
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RoughAir said:
Last time we did this (about year and half ago), the Cayman General Avaition Directorate did it for us, about 24-48 hours notice. Number is in the International Flight Manual, we had to fax them (Grand Cayman) a request for overflight and they forwarded to Castro. It was approved in a day or two, but it was good for only that zulu day for the trip overflight.

Best bet a handler; but at the time I was working for a cheap Part 91 operator and they wouldn't spend an extra nickel for a handler.

Don't be so harsh on your handler, overflight can cost upwards of 300 bucks, unless you like the feel of grabbing your ankles with no KY around, stay with my suggestion.
 

scubabri

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The time that I did it directly with Cuba it was no problem, I even changed it last minute and they faxed response back within a few minutes, but for the life of me I can't find the info.

We are gonna need one in a hurry, since emily is coming and we are going to be evac'ing some family members of the owner of the aircraft.

And to make matters worse.. I got a freeking sunburn. Sheesh.

sb
 

scubabri

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I've got access to a fax machine. AOPA had the form, but I let my membership lapse... cash flow ;)

I'm trying to do all this from my hotel room. :) love being a pilot, it's way fun

sb
 
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I might as well just post it here so other people can use it.


Havana 011-537-33-1185
Havana Fax: 011-537-83-34579

Cayman Tower: 011-537-335-727(I think)


If you have any trouble call 1-800-872-2495, they will have all the info you need.
 
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Pelican 10

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call dispatch services in MIA, they will get it done quick for USD 50,.00
(305)526-6976 or 6835.
 
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More info...



Flights Over Cuba — IFR Only
Cuba allows civil traffic through its airspace via three corridors, the western Giron Corridor, the central Maya Corridor and the eastern Nuevas Corridor. The Cuban government requires pilots to have overflight permits on file in order to use these corridors.

The Cuba overflight permits are good for an entire Zulu day. You can download and use the AOPA form for overflight approval.

Route (G448) takes you from Key West, direct to TADPO, the handoff point to Havana Center. From TADPO, you'll fly south on G448 to Varder VOR, through the Giron Corridor, thence to Cayo Largo Del Sur (a VOR) then to ATUVI, the handoff point to Grand Cayman approach.

This route passes just east of Havana, over Cuba's Matanzas Province. Points of interest include Varadero, a major airport and resort, the Bay of Pigs, just east of the route and Cayo Largo Del Sur, a popular resort for western tourists. Giron, by the way, is the Cuban name for the Bay of Pigs beach, over which the corridor used to pass.

Cuban IFR procedures are straightforward; the controllers are friendly and speak excellent English. The Cubans have a very sophisticated radar and data processing system. In some ways, it's more sophisticated than the U.S. system.

Radio communications are not quite as crisp as in the U.S., which is to say there may be times when you'll hear Havana but they won't hear you and vice versa. The Cubans are used to it and you shouldn't worry much about it.

There are a couple of twists here: Altitudes in Cuban airspace are all flight levels so 12,000 feet is flight level 120 and so on. (Set altimeter to 29.92) Second, we recommend using the phonetic alphabet to describe navigation fixes. This will minimize confusion due to the language barrier and scratchy radios.



There is a dead radar zone about 50 north of cayman so you'll need a relay if you are under 12000ft.
 
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It's 11:20 so I'm hittin it, my dad has surgery tommorrow, mutiplasy, both common iliacs and decsending Aorta repair, very high risk and messy so I need to get to bed. Please pray for him!

Thanks everybody!
 
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