Corporate flying in the Atlanta area

[DAL737FO]

Any good part 91 companies looking for pilots in the Atlanta area.

DAL 737FO

 

[GVFlyer]

ATL Jobs

You might keep your eye on Coke. Word on the street is that their former Texaco Director of Aviation might be on the way out. It seems that in hiring their latest 5 new hires with an average of 700 hours (one not fixed-wing rated) to fly their 2 GV's and 3 GIV's, Headquarters is concerned that while he is meeting their diversity requirements he may not be meeting their safety requirements. I have a couple of friends in the department who are still aghast that these people were hired. One of them, a 7000 hour Gulfstream pilot, says that flying with any one of the newbies is a potentialy career limiting move to be avoided at all costs. If the D of A leaves Coke will be looking for qualified pilots.

GV

 

[Jetdriver69]

Atl jobs

I don't wish to belittle equal opportunity or diversity, but what was Coke thinking when they hired such low time pilots to fly such a complex aircraft. Thats akin to letting Homer Simpson actually run that nuclear power plant he works at. As an jet instructor and flight safety investigator, I see pilots get behind the jet during training all the time and these guys are fairly competent and experienced. I agree with GV all the way. If you have a problem with the aircraft, the NTSB/FAA isn't going to care if the copilot was inexperienced, they are going to care who was in command. Someone should raise the safety flag if it hasn't been done already. Having a socially acceptable flight department does not warrant a degredation in flight safety. I'm sure in some cases the PIC would be better off flying solo, at least you know your own limitations and training proficiency.

jet

 

[2000flyer]

I talked to a Coke pilot late last year and was stunned that they hired these VERY low timers. I'm all for giving people a break, or an early shot in the arm towards their careers, but from what I gathered, these folks had little to no jet time, no EFIS, FMS experience, etc. He said it was a struggle getting them through FlightSafety.

It was seem more appropriate for someone like this to be hired into a Cessna CJ or something like that, certainly not a GV. While I wish them the best in the careers, I certainly hope they realize they've been given the break of a lifetime and had better appreciate their good fortune. Hopefully in 20 years when they become the Chief Pilot or Director, they'll remember their good fortune and not become a self thought God in the industry. I'd bet everyone on this board would have given all they had to land a job like this with less than 1000 hours. For that sake, many with 5000TT would still consider themselves blessed to land a job with a company like Coke.

I did hear (from the same Coke pilot) that they have an "agreement" with Purdue University to employ 2 interns a year. After two years if these interns work out, they would be offered full time employment, thus giving Coke one new pilot every 1-2 years. I've flown with low time pilots in very complex aircraft and it can be hard enough to be responsible for the trip as PIC, much less the obligations of being a CFI at the same time.

I'm sure I'll catch flack for this and it is certainly not intended to do so. I don't have a problem with low timers being added to the ranks. I do, IMHO however, believe in the old addage of "paying ones dues."

If I've upset some here, forgive me. It certainly wasn't meant to offend.

Regards,
2000Flyer

 

[sleepy]

Any good part 91 companies looking for pilots in the Atlanta area.

DAL 737FO

I know that Georgia-Pacific is hurting for pilots right now. They had to park an aircraft because they cannot support it. The problem is that they have a corporate hiring freeze.

One problem for you might be that most of the better corporate flight departments will not hire furloughed airline pilots (I am assuming that is your situation).

You might try flying charter. Try this one: Flightworks (at RYY) 770.422.7375. Talk to Bob Freeman, Scott Beal, or Rick Young. I worked for them a long time ago, it is a good operation.

 

[GIVJoc]

Well I like to think that I was given a chance at an early point in my career, but it wasn’t in the right seat of a V, it was in the right seat of a Lear. Although I built my time fast and had over a thousand hrs of jet time in just under two years, landing my present job.

I still like to believe that despite the fact that my resume may have got me the interview my skills landed me the job.

I can only imagine what they must have gone thru; the G-IV type was by far the hardest I’ve endured.

Although I do look forward to the day I find my name on the G-V list… * sigh *

GIV

 

[wannab0133]

corporate

how would one go about even researching these companies(Coke, georgia-pacific) and finding out how to apply? Like fax numbers, email addresses, web sites, etc. I have already done searches on www and flightinfo. What are some of the tricks of the trade(besides walking in and selling yourself)?

 

[2000flyer]

The pilot who told me the Coke story (see above) said they posted the job on the their website. They received over 3000 resumes in five days and it shut down their site. Now that it's public that Coke will hire lower time pilots, I'm sure they get the broad spectrum. At my former employer, we routinely got resume from folks with 250TT and a fresh ME rating.

GIVJoc. I too feel I got a luck break. My first jet job was on a C501 at 1100TT. I was an FO for two years before getting typed. I was in no hurry as it seemed I learned something new everyday. No doubt I feel fortunate to have had such a break.

DAL737FO ... sorry this has diverted from your original question. Not too long ago one of the job websites had a company in the ATL area looking for someone on their Westwind. Try PilotPointer as they have a good list of help wanted sites that are free to view.

Regards,
2000Flyer

 

[jumppilot03]

Found this on one of the websites, sounds like it could be right

up your alley.

Citation Captain (500 Series)


Position requires a first class medical, 4,000 total hours with 3,000 hours as PIC. This position requires employee to live within 30 minutes of RYY. Professional appearance and excellent customer service skills are a must for this Part 135 on-demand charter position. Citation 500 series type rating is not required but preferred. [email protected]

 

[sleepy]

Re: corporate

how would one go about even researching these companies(Coke, georgia-pacific) and finding out how to apply? Like fax numbers, email addresses, web sites, etc. I have already done searches on www and flightinfo. What are some of the tricks of the trade(besides walking in and selling yourself)?

I got hired by sending a resume in reply to an ad in the paper. It is almost impossible to just walk in to the larger flight departments. We had a security fence and mean-ass secretary to contend with.

The best way is to know somebody that works for the company, that can tell you when they are looking for a pilot. It's is mostly (not always so don't start shooting flames) about timing and who you know.

 

[LXApilot]

ATL Flying Jobs

As a fellow Atlantan and someone who is always out 'pounding the pavement' of the corporate world around these parts, I'll tell you that most of the larger corporate flight departs that I am aware of are completely staffed with high-time pilots. However, check out Georgia Jet at LZU as I hear they have a few openings, and have heard they are friendly to furloughees and also have heard that Southern Company at PDK may be looking for an experienced high-time pilot to possibly qualify for a CAP position, and I have heard they will type the right person if they can find them.

As far as the rest goes... I am a low timer myself... generally speaking anyway... but I will assure anyone who asks me that I have packed A LOT of experience into these few hours. I've held 3 corporate positions thus far as well as worked as a flight instructor here in Atlanta. I know you 'high-time' guys raise an eyebrow at anyone with under 1000TT in a jet cockpit; but all I can say is, you cant judge a book by its cover. I've wanted to a be a professional pilot from the time I smelled jet fuel from the whomb! I've motivated and dedicated myself to being the ABSOLUTE BEST pilot I can be, and I work my ass off to meet the expectations of everyone who sees that I hold a commercial pilots license. I got a great break lately being taken into the cockpit of a C550 as a first officer. I learned the ropes quick; read the books, poured over the manuals and SOPs and did my absolute best to look and act professional in the cockpit. I have over 300 unlogged hours in the MD11, 737-200,-300,-700 full motion simulators and am VERY familiar with SOPs, FMS and EFIS. But how would someone ever know that looking at me or my resume? I guess what I am saying is, as a CFII and someone who has flown as PIC in the corporate environment, I know it can be difficult when other low-time pilot crew members don't meet your expectations... but having faith and giving a young 'low-timer' the opportunity of a lifetime is something they will work hard to earn and will motivate them to persue excellence and professionalism with the urgency and enthusiasm of the same, paying huge dividends for a long time to come!