Continental Interview Calls

[sleeves]

We are only talking less than 100 guys who are even eligible amoung the ATA Furloughs.

How do you become eligible other then be furloughed? Did you have to fly the 757 @ ATA? Are all ATA guys not eligible if furloughed?

 

[ForgedBlade]

ATA PREFERENTIAL INTERVIEW IS UNACCEPTABLE.

There something wrong with this alpa nonsense policy. Somne of us are waiting for good jobs and now we will have to wait for and pay for it. It is bu..........

Is it also unacceptable that UPS requires an internal recommendation before they will look at you?

Is it unacceptable that FedEx requires a sponsor now that has flown with you?

Is it unacceptable that Southwest requires you to have a 737 Type rating?

The list goes on...

It is unfortunate that there are plenty of furloughed pilots out there, but this happens to be a case where our MEC helped us out. As a bonus for Continental, they can get a bunch of us that are already current and qualified on the Boeings. I'm sure they have plenty of HR people that can filter through 15,000+ applications without any problem! If this is so wrong in your eyes, you are probably in the wrong field.

 

[ship]

I'll tell you what my friend , I am in the right field, although I should be looking for a job ith airlines that are about to fail, this way daddy ALPA will help me to land a job with a real airline. Look You know it and I know it and so many others too that this is not really fair . Your AIRLINE failed so get back inline like the rest of us. Don't cut . And this is not really an issue personally with you . You are probably a real nice guy too. I have a major issue with ALPA. They play politics just like politicians and people like me get walked on . I have no problem with sayiing my protest. ALPA is a corrupt organization anyway. Remember I am not mad at you it is the policy makers that I am mad at. I AM AN ALPA MEMBER BY THE WAY.


NOT BY CHOICE.

 

[Boeingman]

Remember I am not mad at you it is the policy makers that I am mad at.

Well Ship, you certainly are entitled to your opinion. If you feel this strongly, mention this to the guy in charge of the hiring. I know him personally and I am sure it will go over real well.

That being said, I think you should save yourself the trouble and not apply at CAL. See Ship, the "poilicy makers" you are mad at is the CAL MEC and CAL Flight Operations since it was a joint decision by the company and ALPA. So why bother applying with a sour attitude towards the airline and people who will be representing you? Should I also mention potential the ATA pilots who will be working with you?

Christ, you haven't even gotten the interview yet and you're complaining.

 

[ship]

I was not complaining , I was expressing my opinion. Just because I am an ALPA member , it does not mean that I have to agree with whatever they would like to do. After all it is a free and democratic country, and we should not be affraid to express ourselves. Most importantly we should not be punished for having an opinion . Your buddy is MEC or whatever , who cares he is just another human and not someone that your are trying to make me affraid of. I know what kind of dealings MEC'S make when it comes to negotiations with management. The whole system is corrupt amd many thousands of pilots know it too. The only way that ALPA works for you is when you are in their little drinking club.

Thank you for this debate . I have nothing further . I wish you great time and many great years ahead of you at CONTINENTAL. I am sure that you will enjoy your new job and wish you success in all aspects of your life.

 

[white E]

whoooohooo..that was a mouthful ship. So did anyone get called for an interview? Boeingman you seem to have the skinny on all of this. Do you know when they are going to start calling people for interviews?
Thanks,

 

[Boeingman]

I was not complaining , I was expressing my opinion. Just because I am an ALPA member , it does not mean that I have to agree with whatever they would like to do. After all it is a free and democratic country, and we should not be affraid to express ourselves. Most importantly we should not be punished for having an opinion . Your buddy is MEC or whatever , who cares he is just another human and not someone that your are trying to make me affraid of. I know what kind of dealings MEC'S make when it comes to negotiations with management. The whole system is corrupt amd many thousands of pilots know it too. The only way that ALPA works for you is when you are in their little drinking club.

Thank you for this debate . I have nothing further . I wish you great time and many great years ahead of you at CONTINENTAL. I am sure that you will enjoy your new job and wish you success in all aspects of your life.

My new job? Am I going somewhere? Making you afraid of someone? Who is punishing you?

You say you "do not have to agree with whatever they like to do". True. But it also would be a smart move that if you felt so stongly and opinionated about the subject that you not bother applying.

Nothing more.

 

[Boeingman]

whoooohooo..that was a mouthful ship. So did anyone get called for an interview? Boeingman you seem to have the skinny on all of this. Do you know when they are going to start calling people for interviews?
Thanks,

I have heard nothing official from a credible source as to the actual dates for calls going out. My guess based on training requirements and the latest bid would be sometime in May. I have heard they want new hires in classes by June.

Lots of vacancies to be filled. There was even 2 or 3 F/O vacancies on the 777 in EWR.

 

[Whale Pilot]

ATA PREFERENTIAL INTERVIEW IS UNACCEPTABLE.

There something wrong with this alpa nonsense policy. Somne of us are waiting for good jobs and now we will have to wait for and pay for it. It is bu..........

Hey Ship,



Come down off your high horse, you're getting a nose bleed.



There are over 1,800 of 2,300 original TWA pilots on the street w/o jobs and 100% of all TWA flight attendants on the street because of the carnage of APA & APFA. ALPA sold off the TWA pilots in hopes of obtaining the 9000 or so APA pilots.



There wasn't one MEC in ALPA that offered any TWA pilot anything! We have 15 year captains on the street while a two year APA wonderboy occupies former TWA aircraft.



And before you say that TWA went down with the ship, be aware that the Pre-Packaged Bankruptcy was only to eliminate the Karabu Agreement from Carl Icaan.

For more information about the worst aviation "merger" in history visit www.twapaf.com & www.twapilots-vs-alpa.com


Best of luck in your endeavor's....

 

[CAL to T-1A]

The last I heard for the Chief of Hiring when I saw him in the training center about three weeks ago was that true off the street hires would be training starting in June.

 

[HalinTexas]

Well, it's too late to tell anyone NOT to get their panties in twist over preferential interviews. I'll just remind everyone that it's preferential interviews, not preferential hiring. Big difference. You also have to be furloughed and apply. CAL ain't coming to your house to beg you to work for them, niether is SWA.

At last count, less than 10 ATA furloughees have been hired by SWA. More have gone to Trans Meridian. (Don't see anyone complaining about it over there.)

One other point. Many of those that are being furloughed have already been furloughed from another carrier, such as TWA and USAir. They might also be current and qualified on aircraft CAL flies, i.e. B737 and B757.

With 3 days left in an ATA left seat, I want to thank CAL and their MEC, as well as SWA for the interview offers. Kudos should also go to the unrealized pilot and FA integration that would have happened with AWA and their now defunct purchase. As I understand it, it set a precedent.

It ain't over till it's over, and it ain't over.

 

[metroplex]

any info what the interview is like at CAL. sim, written, panel interview.?thanks

 

[ForgedBlade]

At last count, less than 10 ATA furloughees have been hired by SWA. More have gone to Trans Meridian. (Don't see anyone complaining about it over there.)

There are ten of us starting at TMA next week, it should be interesting!! I took an early furlough to have a class there that way I knew (or hope I knew!) I would still be employed for a bit longer than what ATA was saying. It's sad, but I'll keep my fingers crossed!

Definitely trying to stay optimistic about CAL, but not so sure about the SWA results so far...

 

[Boeingman]

Some more information:

1) Off the street hires will be starting in June.

2) Sixty per month is the target set to train, classes starting every Tuesday.

3) There are approx 1500 applications on file that have LOR's.

 

[Dirk Diggler]

Thanks

Thanks Boeingman, did your friend happen to say what is competitive, or what they are looking for?

 

[Boeingman]

Thanks Boeingman, did your friend happen to say what is competitive, or what they are looking for?

The above info came from the Chief Pilot's Office. As for the actual numbers they are looking for (beyond the mins. published) they are being tight lipped about it.
The only answer that comes out consistently though is they are weighing LOR's very heavily.

In fact, the company (supposedly) is asking those who recommend pilots if they will be willing to be a "mentor" for the new hire. Someone who can help the pilot with questions and problems during training and when on the line.

I qualify that "supposedly" because there has been nothng written about this, yet it is being told by one of the Chief Pilots (whom I believe are part of the interview process now).

 

[Boeingman]

It ain't over till it's over, and it ain't over.

................until you retire.

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

Life is not fair, and no one deserves anything.

You get what you get.

If you don't like what you get, you can try.

If you're not trying, don't come whining to me.

My wife (girlfriend at the time) was told by her male boss that she wasn't promotable because she was female. She kept bitching and complaining about that job.

Finally, I told her I didn't want to hear it. Either do something, or suffer in silence. She got smart and moved with me to a much better job. Good for her!

God wants you to try.

You will feel better, and will grow as a person if you try. Even if you fail, you will succeed in a way, just because you tried.

God bless all of you!

Cliff
MMIO

 

[Lear70]

There are ten of us starting at TMA next week, it should be interesting!! I took an early furlough to have a class there that way I knew (or hope I knew!) I would still be employed for a bit longer than what ATA was saying. It's sad, but I'll keep my fingers crossed!

Oh God... you went to TMA???!!!

Just kidding man... I interviewed over there for a 727 CA slot last year and ended up turning it down because of RVSM unknowns and the future of the 727 over there. Lots of ex-EOI guys I used to fly with went there too and they seem to not mind it too much, hope you have a good time at it! You're not missing much here at Peanuckle except the start of a LONNNGGG and combative negotating process.

Good luck to all the guys and gals at ATA, TWA, and other furloughees from wherever; I remember how much it sucked to be furloughed and hope you've found something to keep you at least happy, if not well-employed in the interim. For those who would try to "keep a brutha down", just think if YOU would take any extra "IN" you had to get your dream shot... that's what I thought.

 

[ForgedBlade]

Well, TMA actually cancelled the 5/2 class as of 4/29!! Oh well, didn't have a warm and fuzzy feeling about the place anyway, it would have just been an interim job to keep me current in the 757. They may get the class going again in a few weeks, but not really any idea! Not a big deal, but just waiting to hear from CAL & SWA in the meantime. I have a vacation now and time to get the car ready for some shows!!!

Hope you guys are well. Drop a line via the regular e-mail sometime! Cheers.