Commuter Hiring?

[Dieterly]

Which commuters, besides Southwest, are still hiring?

Diet,

 

[Mr.Aviation]

Which commuters, besides Southwest, are still
hiring?


You got that right. That is all Southwest is, a commuter on steroids!

 

[PSL]

I trust your 'smiley' face was a tongue in cheek remark ...

If not ... you might want to ask AA, CAL, UAL, USA who they perceive as their competition.

If half of the 'predictions' by industry analysts prove to be true, SWA will be the biggest domestic 'people mover' by 7/2005.

Not bad for a commuter ....

 

[banned username 2]

Which commuters, besides Southwest, are still hiring?

United Market Capitalization = $266 Million
Continental Market Capitalization = $608 Million
Atlantic Coast Market Capitalization = $655 Million (Regional)
Northwest Market Capitalization = $728 Million
American Market Capitalization = $1,613 Million (Includes Eagle)
Delta Market Capitalization = $1,751 Million (Includes ComAir)

jetBlue Market Capitalization = $1,860 Million
Southwest Market Capitalization = $9,361 Million (35.2 times MORE than UAL's)

Things that make you say "Hhhmmm....."

My guess is SWA's cost structure and business plan is just a weeeeee bit more workable that a few of the "former" Big Boys...

"A little bit of somethin' is better than a whole lotta nothin'!"

Just my $0.02

 

[swimmer]

Wrong board

If the original post was seriously asking about commuter hiring there is a "regional" board that may have a bit more info.

Sounded more like someone wanted to stir the pot to me.

Swimmer

 

[CCDiscoB]

Of course he did. Look at his flight time.

That was funny.

 

[Capt TedStriker]

Falcon capt....

You forgot Market cap for the overall leaders in the "airline industryh"....

How about....

UPS 71,441,000,000$ (71 Billion)
FDX 14,400,000,000$ (14 Billion)

Hows that for "mine is bigger than yours is"....

 

[Browntothebone]

UPS now 72.048B at the close of the day!

 

[banned username 2]

Falcon capt....

You forgot Market cap for the overall leaders in the "airline industryh"....

How about....

UPS 71,441,000,000$ (71 Billion)
FDX 14,400,000,000$ (14 Billion)

Hows that for "mine is bigger than yours is"....

I didn't include those market caps because those companies have a lot more to their business than just the airplanes...

The companies I listed make their income based solely on air travel...

 

[HA25]

Market cap is not related to company size. Just look at the .com's, the were in the 100's of billions and now are all but gone.

AMR has 3 billion cash and 6 billion in aircraft, ual also clost to 3 billion and 3+ billion in aircraft. Both more than SWA from a liquidity standpoint.

Market cap is a measure of the markets expected earnings per share, or future growth expected per share. And Southwest with its low pay and high productivity is loved by investors, and rightfully so. However, were are all pilots first here, and investors second, so I would ask my fellow SWA pilots to pull the bar a bit higher, before we all have to bring ours a lot lower.

Not trying to start a war, just making a factual point.

Good times will be here again for the well managed majors.

 

[HA25]

BTW

Pilot of other major airlines (as well as non-majors) could learn a few things about "attitude" from the SW pilots. Just because management doesn't make you do something to help, that doesn't mean that you can't do it on your own. I believe that most pilots do their best for their company, but I know of many that just want the clock to start on their next leg and couldn't care less about how efficiently they get there, (gate hold for wx vs. running engines - guess which makes you more money?) as long as they are out of the blocks. I saw this while in the JS on a UAL two years ago.

 

[Caveman]

V7OT5 wrote"

"...but I know of many that just want the clock to start on their next leg and couldn't care less about how efficiently they get there, (gate hold for wx vs. running engines - guess which makes you more money?) as long as they are out of the blocks. I saw this while in the JS on a UAL two years ago."

One incident two years ago hardly qualifies as 'many'.

 

[HA25]

That was just one example, I have seen it many times while working at a small "commuter" airline, and in discussions with many pilots I know, one can tell that they are not the least bit concerned with the company's financial health....which is a bad attitude, that's all I'm saying. SWA pilots tend to go the extra mile a bit more often.....that said, they do need a better pay and work rules environment to be on par with UAL/AMR/NWA/DAL and others that they directly compete with.

 

[Dieterly]

SWA pilots tend to go the extra mile a bit more often

No $hit, majority of them even go and buy their own type rating!!

 

[HA25]

That's PFT and I don't agree with it, and as I said, over all the SWA pilots need to bring their standards of labor up to closer match the others, before we all go down to theirs (which aren't bad for a small airline, but they are not a small airline anymore). They do have a good attitude about their company however, and that's all I'm saying.