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V-1

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A press release published on the company's employee website stated that the first 70-seater will arrive September 26. Scheduled service begins November first. Looking at the flight schedule, it appears they plan on having at least two or three by then. The 70's will replace 50's on existing routes.

Perhaps those displaced 50's will be used on all the new Reagan National flying that will begin in November.

I'd post the article, but it's a pdf file and I can't copy it. I haven't seen it published in the media yet.

It's good to see the airplanes finally arriving. A ray of light for those of you in the pool perhaps.
 
V-1

Hey, thanks for the info. All of us in the pool for ACA certainly apreciate any uplifting info. How do you think the new 70's will be manned, and where will they be based? Is there any validity of a base being opened in Salt Lake? Thanks again for the insights!
 
Re: V-1

PilotMonkey said:
Hey, thanks for the info. All of us in the pool for ACA certainly apreciate any uplifting info.

Umm...you do know he was talking about Comair not ACA, right?
 
The only place I've heard rumors of a SLC base is on this message board, not that that makes them true or false.

The 70's will have to be based in CVG until another base opens up. I'd reason if/when that happens, the majority of the 70's will stay in CVG for a while, since 90% of Comair's flying is from CVG.

That's just a guess based on simple statistics.
 
cities served

The new schedule, operated by Delta Connection carrier Comair, includes one round-trip CRJ700 flight each between Cincinnati and the cities of Albany, N.Y.; Bangor,Maine; Omaha, NE, Buffalo, N.Y. and Detroit.
 
do you have the payscales for CA and FO on the 70-seater??
I am going to stick it in Ornstein's face!
 
70-seat F.O.

yr. 1 - 21.75
yr. 2 - 38.13
yr. 3 - 39.29
yr. 4 - 40.52
yr. 5 - 41.77
yr. 6 - 43.07
yr. 7 - 44.40
yr. 8 - 45.77

70-seat Captain

yr. 1 - 61.63
yr. 5 - 69.62
yr. 10 - 82.56
yr. 15 - 96.13
yr. 18 - 105.04


Those are all numbers for pilots wages today, not increased over the life of the contract. An 18-yr. CA will earn 118.22/hr. in 2005.

I think the payscales for CA's with less than five years seniority are nothing more than a waste of ink. The most junior 70 seat Captain at this time has been with the company for over twelve years. Hopefully this will change as more aircraft arrive.
 
V-1 said:
I think the payscales for CA's with less than five years seniority are nothing more than a waste of ink. The most junior 70 seat Captain at this time has been with the company for over twelve years. Hopefully this will change as more aircraft arrive.

It certainly has at ASA. It's gone very junior lately.
 
The Captain's seat has gone junior? Why do you think that is? Is the schedule for the 70 that bad?

Our F.O. seats in the 70's are going to pilots all over the F.O. group. The bottom third of the list has only been here since the beginning of this year.
 
V-1 said:
The Captain's seat has gone junior? Why do you think that is? Is the schedule for the 70 that bad?

Our F.O. seats in the 70's are going to pilots all over the F.O. group. The bottom third of the list has only been here since the beginning of this year.

Both seats are going junior. Newhires in the FO seat, DOH of the juniormost Capt for the October awards is 10/99


I think the reason is many people don't want to spend several years moving backwards down the list as more senior guys bid over to it once they can hold a line. In many cases, a line holder in the -200 would actually lose money by going back to reserve on the -700.
 
Our list is senior now, we only have one plane coming next week, our list will definetly look like ASA's, the 70 is a dead end plane.

I am in CRJ class now and a new hire class one week behind us just filled a FO/70 seat bid, they were all junior assigned to it, it is happening already.

Just watch the next couple of 70 seat bids that have capt bids on it, no Capt in their right mind would bid for a reserve seat on purpose, with the first 20 captains( seniority numbers 1-20 ) when they could hold 90 hours lines and $400 per diem.

My bet is pilots like me that are so junior will be junior assigned to it.
 
Guam360 said:
My bet is pilots like me that are so junior will be junior assigned to it.


It hasn't gotten that bad at ASA yet, but the November preliminary award has D.O.H. 7/00 holding CRJ700 Capt.
 
It hasn't gotten that bad at ASA yet, but the November preliminary award has D.O.H. 7/00 holding CRJ700 Capt.

Oh its gotten that bad at Comair. Trust me, I was jr. manned.

Guam,

nobody is eligible for jr. man who had a hire date after March 13th. The pilots who just finished IOE were not elibible at the opening of the bid (last week) which means they are jr. manning pilots above me. (Talk about a real kick in the pants).

Also folks, don't forget that many people have 50% or 25% bids in so that when they get to be the top 50 or 25% on the list, they would go to the 70 seater. That means the more they jr. man, the more pilots will meet the criteria, and the lower we go on a larger list.

No overnights for a month, and reserve for an indefinite time. Sure you get paid more, but you work less so it doesn't work out to our favor (about $50 less a month on 70 seat reserve than 50 seat line)
 
oooppps, I forgot all about IOE and all that, but anyway, I guess they are taking the most junior qualified.

we'll see what happens to the Captain side, should be interesting.

A real senior friend of mine in 70 transition seems to think some senior pilots will still bid for this most recent bid, I think one closes on the 30th of this month.
 
guam...i've grown so fond of cincitucky i think i'll bid the 70-seater so i can be on reserve and stay around here some more...

where is surplus? did he finally disappear?
 
Yea, I love this place, I think I'll bid too just so I can watch the leaves change or some goofing sh*t like that.

Since I exposed Surplus1 as a fake, not actually being a Capt. here at Comair , I think he is making outrageous comments somewhere else.
 
First 70-seater arrived Sept. 26.

New-hire classes are scheduled for Oct. 14 & 21. Haven't seen anything official beyond that. Don't know how large the class sizes will be.
 

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