Comair to furlough another 120 pilots

[Seaknight1]

Im an FO on the ER out of Atl! Its a pleasure talking with you! What is your story? Are you coming back to Delta? We would love to have you back ASAP! Take Care my Friend!

HecK I didn't even get to start at Delta! I had interviewed back in 2003 while I was still in the Navy, got offered the job but then it was recinded a week before I was to start. So I was lured to Delta Connection Academy to work there with the oppottunity to get flight training as well and get that shiny guaranteed interview a the end. Nah I got my multi commercial and got on with Comair in MCO. As soon as we hit Ch.11 I was offered a job at entry management spot at MAG. Oh I didn't even make it a year there! So here I am back at Comair. I've got feelers out at Delta still, but I'm waiting to see how the DL/NWA guys get integrated and if there will be openings when the dust settles.

 

[701EV]

Hey acarpe3448,

Maybe if Delta would have let the PID in 2000 go through you would have not been furloughed.

Why didn't Delta mgmt tell Comair mgmt to hire furloughed Delta pilots. They could have. They would rather let the unions fight it out and laugh the entire time.

You can blame JC but you also better blame Will B the Delta MEC chairman for not getting it done!

 

[WayBack]

He's making fun of you. This guy is a ****************************** bag.

HecK I didn't even get to start at Delta! I had interviewed back in 2003 while I was still in the Navy, got offered the job but then it was recinded a week before I was to start. So I was lured to Delta Connection Academy to work there with the oppottunity to get flight training as well and get that shiny guaranteed interview a the end. Nah I got my multi commercial and got on with Comair in MCO. As soon as we hit Ch.11 I was offered a job at entry management spot at MAG. Oh I didn't even make it a year there! So here I am back at Comair. I've got feelers out at Delta still, but I'm waiting to see how the DL/NWA guys get integrated and if there will be openings when the dust settles.

 

[crusader 22]

Hey acarpe, you're giving our mec chairman at that time, waaaay too much credit. By the end of the strike he was pretty much neutered by Delta/Comair management. The decision about delta pilots coming to comair was made by your management and comair management as a way to pit the two pilot groups against each other and to get back at us for striking. I noticed a definite change in our mec chair's tone before the strike and after. As the strike went on I think he became afraid of the monster he had helped create. Afterwards he was always cautious about rocking the boat and pretty much let them have their way. He had no power to influence comair in hiring delta pilots. What happened with your furloughed guys and comair was a bum deal but perhaps you should start blaming your mangement.

 

[PuffDriver]

The Delta pilots wanted to be "separate".....Therefor they are no different than any other pilot group.....If you want to work for CMR....you need to resign your seniority number....Either comply with the requirements or go to work somewhere else.....

You can't have it both ways.....Either we are one group or we are separate....If we are separate than you need to apply and meet the company requirements......

So, in summation of JM:
:crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying:

 

[Simon Says]

2 points to touch on in this thread.

First, I cannot believe we are all being adults in this conversation. This has got to be the first F.I. thread on a heated topic of "transfer of flying" and all parties are being mature adults. Congratulations on us all.

Second, Comair PFT has slipped my mind. You guys are right that memories are short. I have been around since 98 and for the life of me remember Comair being PFT. Can someone remind me of the details.

I take back the adult conversation part.

 

[Seaknight1]

He's making fun of you. This guy is a ****************************** bag.

I'm a mech not a pilot..well not a regional pilot, so I don't have a dog in this fight. Seemed like a genuine civil conversation to me.

 

[bob_sakamano]

I'm a mech not a pilot..well not a regional pilot, so I don't have a dog in this fight. Seemed like a genuine civil conversation to me.

Bubba -

A quick review of Acarpe's posts will reveal that he has nothing but contempt for Comair and anyone associated. Apparently, he was one of Delta's jr. FO's when they furloughed and blames all things Comair.

Most of us here tend to find little sincerety from Acarpe. That is why you might see some posts from other guys that seem a little off-color right off the bat in a conversation. He's really a hateful, pitiful person with little moral character.

How anyone could wish so much hate on brother pilots who had no stake in his previous misfortune escapes me.

 

[acarpe3448]

Bubba -

A quick review of Acarpe's posts will reveal that he has nothing but contempt for Comair and anyone associated. Apparently, he was one of Delta's jr. FO's when they furloughed and blames all things Comair.

Most of us here tend to find little sincerety from Acarpe. That is why you might see some posts from other guys that seem a little off-color right off the bat in a conversation. He's really a hateful, pitiful person with little moral character.

How anyone could wish so much hate on brother pilots who had no stake in his previous misfortune escapes me.

This coming from a person that calls my mother and sister fat and syays that someone pulled a train on them! Let me tell you, you sure have a real compassion for people and a mature way of expressing it!

 

[laserman2431]

This coming from a person that calls my mother and sister fat and syays that someone pulled a train on them! Let me tell you, you sure have a real compassion for people and a mature way of expressing it!

Asscarpe. You might be in the wrong place if you are looking for sympathy. But, I can't help being a nice guy. As far as I'm concerned, your mom is pleasingly plump and let's just say that she is a crowd pleaser.

 

[RiddleEagle18]

This coming from a person that calls my mother and sister fat and syays that someone pulled a train on them! Let me tell you, you sure have a real compassion for people and a mature way of expressing it!

Dont you dare call out someone else's compassion. You have to be the most uncompassionate person on these boards. You cheer when people who have done nothing to you are out of a job and on the street with a family to support. Everyone at comair being effected by this wasn't even hired when delta was furloughing.

Dont blame the comair pilots for your MEC's failings. Mainline delta pilots allowed your job to be outsourced. Your furlough is a direct result of the guy sitting in the seat next to you not the RJ parked at the next gate.

Grow some balls and call out your own Union leadership instead of blaming someone else.

I bet when Delta came to your pilot group with 50 seat RJ's you were probably the one screaming the loudest that you would never fly that piece of ********************. Then when you were out of a job, because you gave it away, you were the screaming the loudest that you want it back.

What a great union!!

 

[flyboyike]

What a great union!!

Ain't that the truth! I especially like it when my MEC chairman tells me (in writing, no less!) that saving 40-60 jobs isn't worth it, if the it means the guys with seniority number 20 and under have to get paid for five hours less.

 

[MXAV8R]

Dont you dare call out someone else's compassion. You have to be the most uncompassionate person on these boards. You cheer when people who have done nothing to you are out of a job and on the street with a family to support. Everyone at comair being effected by this wasn't even hired when delta was furloughing.

Dont blame the comair pilots for your MEC's failings. Mainline delta pilots allowed your job to be outsourced. Your furlough is a direct result of the guy sitting in the seat next to you not the RJ parked at the next gate.

Grow some balls and call out your own Union leadership instead of blaming someone else.

I bet when Delta came to your pilot group with 50 seat RJ's you were probably the one screaming the loudest that you would never fly that piece of ********************. Then when you were out of a job, because you gave it away, you were the screaming the loudest that you want it back.

What a great union!!

That has to be one of the most honestly accurate summations of what happened that I have read. And I'm a Delta pilot...
But in anycase, CMR MEC did no favor to their pilots.

 

[TristarJS30]

But in anycase, CMR MEC did no favor to their pilots.

And it still isn't.

 

[acarpe3448]

Asscarpe. You might be in the wrong place if you are looking for sympathy. But, I can't help being a nice guy. As far as I'm concerned, your mom is pleasingly plump and let's just say that she is a crowd pleaser.

Oh! I am crushed! I know for a fact that you know who my mom is! Because you know who I am! Your childish little remarks do so much damage to my feelings! As for your sympathy, I could not care one bit about it! You all at Comair are as inmature as you are childish! I have never ever said that I am proud of all of our union's decesions, but you all know for a fact that it had nothing to do with the Comair pilots decesion to screw the Delta pilots while they were down! As for where I stand, I am praying that Comair goes away! Every last one of you have a good time on unemployment! Best luck trying to find another pilot job! Laughing myself on the whole situation! Now you minor leaugers have fun in your $200 a month crash pads with your fat chicks! Thats all you all can apperantly attract! RJDC =What a joke! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

 

[imacdog]

Acarpe I think you need help.

 

[acarpe3448]

That has to be one of the most honestly accurate summations of what happened that I have read. And I'm a Delta pilot...
But in anycase, CMR MEC did no favor to their pilots.

Thats right! You are 100% correct! I still do not want to fly one of those pieces of *********! I need more than $14,000 a year to work for an airline! As for your 50 seaters Comair, they are going bye bye! So your 70 seaters! That is justice, and that is funny! Now quit mixing facts, and get back to your second job selling concrete at Home Depot! Watch out unemployment offices, here comes a 1000 Comair pilots! IDWTBFC=I dont want to be furloughed coalition! Maybe you can find someone else to sue! You need a better attorney though!


HAHAHAHAHA

 

[acarpe3448]

Acarpe I think you need help.

With what? I feel fine!!!!!! I think the Comair pilots could use some help! I might not get so worked up though if it were not for the stupid comments people make! If you all want to bad mouth Delta, Delta pilots, the union etc more power to you! When you make inmature remarks about sex with family members when you have nothing to argue back, that is a little uncalled for! And no, I dont need your sympathy or your 50 seaters! Why is Comair bitching about Mesaba now?

 

[laserman2431]

With what? I feel fine!!!!!! I think the Comair pilots could use some help! I might not get so worked up though if it were not for the stupid comments people make! If you all want to bad mouth Delta, Delta pilots, the union etc more power to you! When you make inmature remarks about sex with family members when you have nothing to argue back, that is a little uncalled for! And no, I dont need your sympathy or your 50 seaters! Why is Comair bitching about Mesaba now?

Asscarpe. Don't you have a windcheck to ask for?

 

[laserman2431]

I agree that Asscarpe sounds like he may be having a personal crisis. He might need an intervention.

 

[Simon Says]

And to think page 1-3 of this thread was about Mesaba and Comair. Somehow the topic switched to Delta hating Comair for stealing flying, RJDC, MEC Chairmans and the sort.

 

[samballs]

With what? I feel fine!!!!!! I think the Comair pilots could use some help! I might not get so worked up though if it were not for the stupid comments people make! If you all want to bad mouth Delta, Delta pilots, the union etc more power to you! When you make inmature remarks about sex with family members when you have nothing to argue back, that is a little uncalled for! And no, I dont need your sympathy or your 50 seaters! Why is Comair bitching about Mesaba now?

They're are all sorry for saying your mom and sister are fat. What they meant to say is, your sister is as worthless as the fluff girls at porn gangbang, and your mom well she passed down the family trade.

 

[TristarJS30]

Anyway, back on topic.. displacement bid is out. 70 downgrades, 86 furloughs.

 

[PA44Jockey]

Yep. 70 downgrades.

 

[contrail67]

Sucks to be the Comair guys. You guys try to raise the bar, only to be stabbed in the back by every other regional, especially RAH.
But hey, it takes a special person to fly the "Guppy Killer".

I don't think Delta got over your strike.

 

[laserman2431]

"Kind of Catch 22 is it not. If Dalpa was able to negotiate for our furloughed pilots to fly the 70 seater on even a temporay basis, DCI would scream that we were blocking DCI's growth. If we were able to negotiate Delta Pilot's flying the RJ70 at anything other than DCI rates, the DCI Pilots would scream about not being represented fairly because of two different pay scales for the same piece of equipment. I appreciate the DCI pilots and their desire to set a new standard of pay etc. etc...but Delta Management talking with our pilots about lowering the costs should be just that! After we have adjusted our rates, work rules etc. I hope that DALPA will look to make a compromise with management to bring our pilots back. On the other hand, I think that DCI wants to use these negotiations to carve up the pilots working agreement for the benefit of themselves..**CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED**** CENSORED** the Furloughed Pilots! This once again makes it clear to me that the RJDC is fighting a self centered battle to try to get themselves a Delta Job the easy way!"

Guess who said the quote above?

 

[bob_sakamano]

Sorry to hear about more Comair brothers hitting the street. Unfortunately, I think it's just a preview of things to come from The New Delta.

Re: acarpe/sterile

A clinical psychologist would have a field day reading your posts, as you're clearly a sociopath and that's just the tip of the iceberg.

I apologize for the comment about your family. It was out of line. I really am ashamed of myself for letting your mean spirited comments get to me.

Arguing with you would be like Michael Jordan competing in the Special Olympics. It's just not fair.

Thankfully, I've spent enough time on Delta jumpseats to know that you're not representative of the pilot group.

 

[laserman2431]

"Kind of Catch 22 is it not. If Dalpa was able to negotiate for our furloughed pilots to fly the 70 seater on even a temporay basis, DCI would scream that we were blocking DCI's growth. If we were able to negotiate Delta Pilot's flying the RJ70 at anything other than DCI rates, the DCI Pilots would scream about not being represented fairly because of two different pay scales for the same piece of equipment. I appreciate the DCI pilots and their desire to set a new standard of pay etc. etc...but Delta Management talking with our pilots about lowering the costs should be just that! After we have adjusted our rates, work rules etc. I hope that DALPA will look to make a compromise with management to bring our pilots back. On the other hand, I think that DCI wants to use these negotiations to carve up the pilots working agreement for the benefit of themselves..**CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED**** CENSORED** the Furloughed Pilots! This once again makes it clear to me that the RJDC is fighting a self centered battle to try to get themselves a Delta Job the easy way!"

Guess who said the quote above?

OK. I'll give you some hints. His mother can do amazing tricks with ping pong balls and he has an obsessive need to ask for windchecks every 15 minutes.

 

[acarpe3448]

Sorry to hear about more Comair brothers hitting the street. Unfortunately, I think it's just a preview of things to come from The New Delta.

Re: acarpe/sterile

A clinical psychologist would have a field day reading your posts, as you're clearly a sociopath and that's just the tip of the iceberg.

I apologize for the comment about your family. It was out of line. I really am ashamed of myself for letting your mean spirited comments get to me.

Arguing with you would be like Michael Jordan competing in the Special Olympics. It's just not fair.

Thankfully, I've spent enough time on Delta jumpseats to know that you're not representative of the pilot group.

And you have my apology for getting a little worked up! It was a bad time for a lot of people, not just me! I'll watch what I say!

 

[acarpe3448]

"Kind of Catch 22 is it not. If Dalpa was able to negotiate for our furloughed pilots to fly the 70 seater on even a temporay basis, DCI would scream that we were blocking DCI's growth. If we were able to negotiate Delta Pilot's flying the RJ70 at anything other than DCI rates, the DCI Pilots would scream about not being represented fairly because of two different pay scales for the same piece of equipment. I appreciate the DCI pilots and their desire to set a new standard of pay etc. etc...but Delta Management talking with our pilots about lowering the costs should be just that! After we have adjusted our rates, work rules etc. I hope that DALPA will look to make a compromise with management to bring our pilots back. On the other hand, I think that DCI wants to use these negotiations to carve up the pilots working agreement for the benefit of themselves..**CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED**** CENSORED** the Furloughed Pilots! This once again makes it clear to me that the RJDC is fighting a self centered battle to try to get themselves a Delta Job the easy way!"

Guess who said the quote above?

Who would that be?