FL990
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JoeMerchant said:FL990,
As a fellow ASA pilot, I have several questions for you.
1. Did Mesaba or XJT pilots stab us in the back when they negotiated sub-CMR contracts AFTER the CMR contract? If so did you voice your opinion to them at the time?
2. Did ACA, ALG, PDT or Air Wisconsin stab us in the back when they negotiated concessions after the CMR contract was signed? If so did you voice your opinion to them at the time?
3. Did the United, Delta, NWA, and CAL pilots stab us in the back when they negotiated concessions after 911? If so did you voice your opinion to them at the time?
4. Did you refuse to fly the CMR aircraft that showed up here at ASA during their strike?
5. Did you thank the CMR pilots for turning down RFP 1 which resulted in them stagnating?
6. Do honestly believe that any single pilot group can unilaterally hold up this mythical "bar" that everyone talks about?
I don't blame CMR pilots - I blame poor union leadership and poor strategic planning on ALPA's part.
Joe
Responses:
1: Did ASA have a handshake agreement between MEC's with Mesaba or XJT not to take concessions for growth?
2id ASA have this afformentioned agreement in response one with the companies you mentioned in question 2?
3. Do we make anywhere close to what mainline pilots groups make with regards to pay...even when compared to averages per seat?
4. The CMR aircraft we received while they were on strike were not aircraft off there lot but were RFP aircraft which they could not receive because they weren't flying. They WERE NOT aircraft with there name on them.
5. Did they thank us for turning down RFP one which most likely resulted in us losing all the additional aircraft which we would have received if we would have extended the contract for growth...(ie taken concession for growth)
6.No, i don't believe that any one group can....however, Delta had been putting us in a spot to compete between each other for years and up until the "great concession" we refused. We aren't competing for Delta's business with Mesaba, NWA or any of the others you mentions...and we wouldn't have had to compete with CMR if they would have held there guns.
I would agree that our union system is not perfect, but they could have said no...we did and we still got aircraft.