Colgan Pilots cleared for takeoff on ALPA Vote!!

[Godfather]

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Colgan Pilots check your email!!!

from www.alpa.org/colgan

We are pleased to inform you that the National Mediation Board (NMB) has authorized a secret ballot representation election.
The balloting period will begin on July 31, 2007, and continue through August 21, 2007.

The NMB will mail each eligible Colgan pilot the telephone-voting instructions in connection with the representation election in the near future. We will provide more information on this process as well next week, so please continue to check your email for the most up-to-date information on this important issue.

More good news for Colgan pilots: We’ve attached the NMB’s decision referencing the company’s claim about the collection of Authorization for Representation Election cards. As you will read, the NMB found in favor of ALPA — that there was no validity to the company’s claim of any wrong doing in the collection of cards. The Organizing Committee thanks ALPA staff for their assistance in this matter, and we look forward to their continued professional support as the collective bargaining representative for all Colgan pilots.
Let’s Make It Better!
The Colgan Pilots ALPA Organizing Committee
www.alpa.org/colgan

Rock On.....

 

[Prop2Jet]

Certo! Morte Colgan!

 

[Thug Life]

Colgan Pilots must vote. Think of your future. Think of the industry future. Your vote counts!!

 

[Superpilot92]

Good luck guys and gals! We are all behind you congrats on the next step

 

[70-SS]

Good luck guys and gals! We are all behind you congrats on the next step

Thanks for the back up. It's hero time Colgan pilot. Time to shine. Get beyond the BS letters from management and the anti ALPA crap from a few of the Captains. Vote your gut feeling!!

 

[Gobi Gred]

Or you could be like SkyWest pilots and have a never ending cycle of union drive, vote it down, union drive, vote it down. Trust me, that is NOT the way to do it. All it shows management is that as a pilot group you like to cry wolf and have no spine. Hopefully you Colgan guys and gals will avoid that. Good Luck!

 

[70-SS]

Or you could be like SkyWest pilots and have a never ending cycle of union drive, vote it down, union drive, vote it down. Trust me, that is NOT the way to do it. All it shows management is that as a pilot group you like to cry wolf and have no spine. Hopefully you Colgan guys and gals will avoid that. Good Luck!

Truth. Vote in ALPA.

 

[sstearns2]

Thanks for the back up. It's hero time Colgan pilot. Time to shine. Get beyond the BS letters from management and the anti ALPA crap from a few of the Captains. Vote your gut feeling!!

Please don't vote your 'gut feeling'. Do the research and vote based on the clear costs and benefits of being represented by ALPA.

Scott

 

[dingo222]

Please don't vote your 'gut feeling'. Do the research and vote based on the clear costs and benefits of being represented by ALPA.

Scott

I ate one of those LGA burritos today. You don't want to know what my gut is "feeling"

 

[TNHillbilly]

mmmmmm..burritos!


vote.

 

[PCL_128]

Congrats guys, and please thank your organizing committee members who worked their asses off to make this happen. They've still got work to do, though, and so do you. Make sure you vote! Every single vote counts.

Can't wait until I see Colgan pilots wearing ALPA pins!

 

[FIXIT]

Vote NO! Don't be a fool

 

[AWACO]

I mean look what ALPA has done for Mesa!

 

[PCL_128]

I mean look what ALPA has done for Mesa!

Actually, great example! ALPA stopped the outsourcing of Mesa jobs to the scumbags at Freedumb. Or were you still learning how to do a steep turn when that happened?

 

[YMICFI]

vote

Ballots will be sent out July 31st. Voting will continue through August 21st. Vote YES.

 

[A350]

PCL:

A little high on one's horse now that you aren't stuck at PCL trying to get into the major leagues?

That may be the ALPA version of what happened at Mesa, but the flying wasn't outsourced. They bought jets they couldn't fly on the Mesa certificate due to scope restrictions at USAir mainline.

Most regional aircraft fly routes that were "outsourced" from mainline....and it was done under the carefully focused eyes of ALPA. So don't go around &$^(ing about outsourcing. It is why you are where you are today.

As far as the Colgan pilots, being ALPA may or may not benefit the Colgan pilots. It certainly won't make anyone else's life better because the way ALPA is set up, the Colgan pilots will do what benefits them and they won't care what happens to anyone else....just like it is now.

A350

 

[PCL_128]

That may be the ALPA version of what happened at Mesa, but the flying wasn't outsourced.

The flying belonged to the Mesa pilots, and the NMB agreed with that interpretation by eventually ruling in their favor on the single carrier petition. So yes, the flying was illegally outsourced by JO.

They bought jets they couldn't fly on the Mesa certificate due to scope restrictions at USAir mainline.

JO could easily have stayed within the bounds of the MAG CBA by having two certificates but only one seniority list. Instead, he tried to outsource the flying to a non-union alter-ego. ALPA saw to it that that he was stopped.

So don't go around &$^(ing about outsourcing. It is why you are where you are today.

You're talking apples and oranges here, buddy. The outsourcing at Mesa/Freedumb was in violation of the Mesa CBA. The outsourcing of legacy flying is done in accordance with their CBA. Big difference.

 

[70-SS]

I mean look what ALPA has done for Mesa!

Don't be stuipd. What has Mesa done for Mesa. Think about that.

 

[A350]

PCL:

Whatever....color it anyway you want...in my mind there is no difference. Are you saying that having regional jets outsourced to other carriers, under the guise of ALPA and a CBA under ANY circumstance has been good for the careers of any pilots in this country?

A350

 

[PCL_128]

Whatever....color it anyway you want...in my mind there is no difference.

How can there be no difference? One was done in violation of a CBA, the other is done in agreement with the pilots who voted for the scope concessions.

Are you saying that having regional jets outsourced to other carriers, under the guise of ALPA and a CBA under ANY circumstance has been good for the careers of any pilots in this country?

Of course not. Outsourcing is bad, period. It's bad for the mainline pilots who have their flying outsourced to the lowest bidder as their jobs are eliminated, and it's bad for the regional guys who would rather move on to mainline carriers than continue to get bigger jets at their crappy regional carrier.

However, the mainline guys agreed to that outsourcing. It wasn't done in violation of their contract. It was done only after they voted to approve it. To compare that to the situation at Mesa/Freedumb or TSA/HoJets where their flying was outsourced in violation of their CBA is ridiculous.

 

[HelloNewman]

Vote no and vote no often. Don't let ALPA ruin your life. Your airline is nothing more than a stepping stone. A union ruins the stepping stone to a major. No one comes to colgan to be a lifer.

 

[SkyNation]

Or you could be like SkyWest pilots...
Trust me, that is NOT the way to do it. Hopefully you Colgan guys and gals will avoid that. Good Luck!

Right. SkyWest pilots have gone 35 plus years without a single furlough, have enjoyed tons of growth and advancement, receive more in total compensation than most other comparable carriers, enjoy a stable workplace with a great looking future.

yeah, you don't want that.

instead, hitch your wagon to the 'star' that delivered Comair, ASA, Mesa, et al to where they are at today.

you decide.

 

[suupah]

Right. SkyWest pilots have gone 35 plus years without a single furlough, have enjoyed tons of growth and advancement, receive more in total compensation than most other comparable carriers, enjoy a stable workplace with a great looking future.

yeah, you don't want that.

instead, hitch your wagon to the 'star' that delivered Comair, ASA, Mesa, et al to where they are at today.

you decide.

colgan has had furloughs, does not recieve that great of compensation in fact we strive to recieve "industry average to the penny" and work rules that leave a TON to be desired.

If SkyWest were all of those things you might think differently

 

[Jmoney]

Nice!

Vote no and vote no often. Don't let ALPA ruin your life. Your airline is nothing more than a stepping stone. A union ruins the stepping stone to a major. No one comes to colgan to be a lifer.

Interesting.... After Instructordude, and pilot 754, I thought we had seen it all....
But wait... There's more!

Here we have the sequel. Pee pants here is the new front runner for Spankoff of the Year....

-Why even waste time at your "stepping stone?" Just go right ahead to the major that doesn't have a union.....

Oh wait, there aren't any you bumbletard!

 

[Fred Rogers]

No one comes to colgan to be a lifer.

So wouldn't it be nice to have the Certificate and Medical protection that ALPA offers to help make sure of that?

I gaurentee that if newman had a bad EKG (which is entirely possible due to the blackness of his heart) he would not be very vocal about being anti-ALPA while they save his career.

YEE HAW Colgan pilots!!! This is our chance!!! VOTE YES FOR ALPA!!

www.alpa.org/colgan

 

[suupah]

So wouldn't it be nice to have the Certificate and Medical protection that ALPA offers to help make sure of that?

I gaurentee that if newman had a bad EKG (which is entirely possible due to the blackness of his heart) he would not be very vocal about being anti-ALPA while they save his career.

YEE HAW Colgan pilots!!! This is our chance!!! VOTE YES FOR ALPA!!

www.alpa.org/colgan

a lot of guys would rather opt for AOPA on the ticket protection.

BREWSKI BREWSKI BREWSKI

 

[PCL_128]

a lot of guys would rather opt for AOPA on the ticket protection.

There's absolutely no comparison to what ALPA provides. AOPA offers just a single legal consultation a year with your regular membership fees. After the initial consultation, you have to pay for everything else. There are no Aeromedical services provided by AOPA either.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

There's absolutely no comparison to what ALPA provides. AOPA offers just a single legal consultation a year with your regular membership fees. After the initial consultation, you have to pay for everything else. There are no Aeromedical services provided by AOPA either.

AOPA helps you fly to a $100 hamburger...

ALPA helps you protect your ability to rent an airplane and buy that $100 hambuger...

Colgan will pay your paycheck.... ALPA will fill in the amount.....

 

[suupah]

Well OC members. this is a good point to bring up with some of those on the fence. They talk about getting the same legal protections by joing AOPA or like organizations. I guess most of us don't know the specifics.

 

[dingo222]

BREWSKI BREWSKI BREWSKI

bitch azz, i sure set myself up with that one........