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suupah said:
Remember props are for boats. Real pilots fly jets.
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Yea... and jets are for hot tubs...

Discussing either is like comparing intestinal discomfort caused by Salmonilla or Bocholism.... Either way... life is the $H!T$ And currently... there is no immodium AD for relief with either symptom....errr company Just make sure.... what ever toilet you choose to roost on.... make sure its comfortable... You my find yourself stuck if this industry doesn't find its own solution.....

Choose your poison carefully young Jedi.... these are not the droids you are looking for....

Peace

V1
 
V1cutsrfun said:
Yea... and jets are for hot tubs...

Discussing either is like comparing intestinal discomfort caused by Salmonilla or Bocholism.... Either way... life is the $H!T$ And currently... there is no immodium AD for relief with either symptom....errr company Just make sure.... what ever toilet you choose to roost on.... make sure its comfortable... You my find yourself stuck if this industry doesn't find its own solution.....

Choose your poison carefully young Jedi.... these are not the droids you are looking for....

Peace

V1
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nice avatar!
 
Have you tried CommutAir? That would be an easy commute from PIT to CLE. If you can't JS you could make the drive if absolutely necessary. The Q200 is awesome, and we are on the verge of hopefully passing ALPA in the next few weeks. I would at least consider it, if you haven't already.
 
You want to work for a regional carrier, and you've narrowed it down to either Colgan or Mesa?

Have you done any research on these companies other than their crew bases?
 
Take the Colgan job, fly for 6 months and build your time on thier dime.....THEN decide if you like the company, the flying, the airplane and where you are based. If you don't THEN shop around for a regional that you REALLY want to work for and then pursue the job, you'll at that point be job hunting with nearly 1000 hours total time, of which 5-600 will be multi-turbine 121 time...you will be able to get a job anywhere!

You are not married to whatever job you take, pay and work rules suck at the regional level with little exception no matter where you go. Avoid Mesa like the plague. Try NOT to commute to work, it'll burn up at least 20% of your little time off every month and the stress is not worth it.

Piedmont is also hiring low time guys and in my opinion is a much better place than Colgan and they have bigger a/c on the way as well (I think the Q400 or ATR, not sure). But as a new guy you don't have too many options with your hours/experience, take what is offered (except Mesa) and re-evaluate your situation 6 months later. Don't feel that if you get hired someplace that you "owe" them and must stay there...do what is best for YOU, they will cut you in a nanosecond if it would mean improving thier bottom line. Welcome to the industry, you'll do fine:)
 
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andyd said:
Take the Colgan job, fly for 6 months and build your time on thier dime.....THEN decide if you like the company, the flying, the airplane and where you are based. If you don't THEN shop around for a regional that you REALLY want to work for and then pursue the job, you'll at that point be job hunting with nearly 1000 hours total time, of which 5-600 will be multi-turbine 121 time...you will be able to get a job anywhere!
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And while you're flying for those 6 months, try to save $8,000. That's what it will cost you to leave at that time.
 
well at Colgan, you will owe them money if you leave before the end of the training contract.

And no, Piedmont is not getting big props. It would be a miracle if they get even one within the next year or two. By then the rates will have expired and we will be in contract negotiations. Leases will up on 20+(???) planes in 09. All of our instructors are going part time (save one, maybe two). We are operating 4 sims now, somehow. There have been a lot of mechanical issues lately with the fleet.

We are getting fat on pilots, hopefully for expected increases in summer flying and attrition to mainline. We are upgrading a lot but a new bid just came out with NO captain vacancies. There is a strong resistance to lowering the 3000TT requirement for upgrade in training. We are 13 numbers away from 07 hire upgrades... They say we will be short qualified upgrades in NOV, I say July/August. There is no hope of ever holding a line as a new captain here, quite a few are bypassing upgrade ('00-'01 hires) for QOL. Reserve here blows ass.

We are painting all the planes and are putting money into making our manuals match mainline's. Hopefully that means we are in the long term picture (>1 year).

We are hiring non-college grads with 200 hours!!! If you aren't part of the 25% that get canned in training, welcome aboard. No training contract and get paid more than a first year FO at mainline. The dash 8 is a great airplane.
 
As said earlier there are lots af regionals, why are you picking the two worst ones in the country.

Weather the Colgon guys want to admit it or not there fate is tied two ours and right now thats about like wearing lead filled blood soaked underwear to shark week.
Pinnacle is losing money like a sailer in bar. If management doesn't start managing, both Pinnacle and Colgon are all done. I give it a year and a half max at this point. I follow the SEC filing closely and both the Colgon and Delta flying are sinking the ship right now. The only money maker is the NWA flying and they are mismanaging that badly enough it is only a matter of time before the penalty's exceed the profits there as well.
 
I'd go with door number three, Get more time! Go somewhere that doesn't suck as much.
 
McNasty said:
I'd go with door number three, Get more time! Go somewhere that doesn't suck as much.
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In other words, skip the regionals altogether. Or are you implying that that there is one that doesn't suck?
 
Give me a break. All of the regionals suck. You will make no money and your QOL might be terrible. Understanding that, you will want to focus on quality of time (Q400 ain't that bad if you don't fly a jet) and potential upgrade time because PIC time is what matters. I say go with Colgan for now (request the Q400) and get some good experience for at least a year. If you want to move on from there you can - I would suggest Republic/CHQ on the E170 if that is an option.

In the meanwhile, ask for the Q400 and go get some good experience for at least one year - YOU CAN DO IT.... Quit being a ninny and just do it - flying a Q400 or a Saab around the NY area will be good experience regardless. Don't overthink it - just do it.
 
On Your Six said:
Give me a break. All of the regionals suck. You will make no money and your QOL might be terrible. Understanding that, you will want to focus on quality of time (Q400 ain't that bad if you don't fly a jet) and potential upgrade time because PIC time is what matters. I say go with Colgan for now (request the Q400) and get some good experience for at least a year. If you want to move on from there you can - I would suggest Republic/CHQ on the E170 if that is an option.

In the meanwhile, ask for the Q400 and go get some good experience for at least one year - YOU CAN DO IT.... Quit being a ninny and just do it - flying a Q400 or a Saab around the NY area will be good experience regardless. Don't overthink it - just do it.
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do it do it

http://youtube.com/watch?v=JoqDYcCDOTg&feature=related
 

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