Crossky
A Gentleman and a bother
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Granted. I took out the obviously unavoidable accidents (engine falling off the AA DC-10 at ORD, the DAL L1011 in windshear at DFW; the DAL DC9 in wake turbulence at GSW; UAL DC-10 with triple hydaulic failure, etc). There are some - maybe lots on this list - that could have been avoided with better technology, etc. But most (not all) were attributed in large measure to pilot error. I guess this list is basically my visceral reaction to hockeypuck's absurd assertion that pilots at major/legacy carriers don't do stupid things because they are paid more. We ALL have done stupid things, regardless of where we work.
Fly safe.
While I appreciate your list and your sentiment, the NTSB disagreed with you about the cause of Delta 191 crashing. They blamed it mainly on pilot error, with other contributing factors. Very simply, it's dangerous to fly underneath a servere thunderstorm which has just starting raining. It was dangerous then and even with all the newer technology it's dangerous now.
From the NTSB report: "On August 2, 1985, at 1805:52 central daylight -time, Delta Air Lines
flight 191, a Lockheed L-1011 crashed while approaching to land at Dallas Fort Worth
From the NTSB report: "On August 2, 1985, at 1805:52 central daylight -time, Delta Air Lines
flight 191, a Lockheed L-1011 crashed while approaching to land at Dallas Fort Worth
International Airport, Texas. While passing through the rain shaft beneath a thuflderstorm, the flight entered a microburst which the pilot was unable to traverse successfuliy. The airplane struck the ground about 6,300 feet north of the approach
end of runway 17L, hit a car on a highway north of the runway killing the driver, struck two
end of runway 17L, hit a car on a highway north of the runway killing the driver, struck two
water tanks. on tile airport, and
broke apart. Except for a section of the airplane containing
the aft fuselage and empennage, the remainder of the airplane disinegrated during the
impact sequence, and a severe fire erupted during the impact sequence. Of the 163 persons
aboard. 134 passengers and crewmembers were killed; 26 passengers and 3 cabin attendants
survived.
The National Transportation Safety Board determines that the probable causes
the aft fuselage and empennage, the remainder of the airplane disinegrated during the
impact sequence, and a severe fire erupted during the impact sequence. Of the 163 persons
aboard. 134 passengers and crewmembers were killed; 26 passengers and 3 cabin attendants
survived.
The National Transportation Safety Board determines that the probable causes
of the accident -were the flightcrew’s decision to initiate and continue the approach into a
cumulonimbus cloud which they observed to contain visible lightning; the lack of specific
guidelines, procedures, and training for avoiding and escaping from low-altitude wind shear;
and the lack of definitive, real-time wind shear hazard information. This resulted in the
aircraft’s encounter at low altitude with a microburst-induced, severe wind shear from a
rapidly developing thunderstorm located on the final approach course."
cumulonimbus cloud which they observed to contain visible lightning; the lack of specific
guidelines, procedures, and training for avoiding and escaping from low-altitude wind shear;
and the lack of definitive, real-time wind shear hazard information. This resulted in the
aircraft’s encounter at low altitude with a microburst-induced, severe wind shear from a
rapidly developing thunderstorm located on the final approach course."