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Colgan 3407 Down in Buffalo

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Here's the weather at that time.


KBUF 130505Z COR 25012KT 4SM -SN BR BKN008 BKN015 OVC021 01/00
A2983 RMK AO2 CIG 005V011 P0000= (SPECI)
KBUF 130454Z 26014KT 3SM -SN BR SCT011 OVC021 01/00
A2983=
KBUF 130505Z 25012KT 4SM BR BKN008 BKN015 OVC021 01/00 A2983 RMK
AO2 FZRAB0458E0459SNE0458 CIG 005V011 P0000= (SPECI)
KBUF 130458Z 25012KT 3SM -FZRA BR BKN008 OVC015 01/00 A2983 RMK
AO2 FZRAB58SNE58 CIG 005V012 P0000= (SPECI)
KBUF 130454Z 26014KT 3SM -SN BR SCT011 OVC021 01/00 A2983 RMK AO2
SLP109 P0004 T00060000 401060000=
KBUF 130354Z 24011KT 3SM -SN BR SCT011 OVC021 01/M01 A2981 RMK AO2
SLP103 P0002 T00061006=
 
WHO CARES!!! Have some respect for the crew and families on board and don't speculate on what happened. Good grief.... Go back to flying MS Flight Sim loser...

Godspeed to those involved.


kcuf you jerkoff!!! I have plenty of respect for all families and crew on board. Nothing wrong with trying to understand what happened!!!
 
awful. :( Rest in peace, wherever you are. :(

oh, and Av8tr19, pm me your address so I can come kick the *t out of you.
 
kcuf you jerkoff!!! I have plenty of respect for all families and crew on board. Nothing wrong with trying to understand what happened!!!

Is this the first plane crash you've ever heard about?

2 hours after the incident and you are "trying to understand what happened"?

WTF could anybody possibly know?
 
Thoughts and prayers to the crew, passengers, and their families. Now is not to time to speculate about the causes, but to care for the injured and the relatives of the dead. There will be plenty of time to debate the cause and issues with Colgan after the NTSB does its work.

At least allow these people to be mourned and laid to rest before ripping their reputations to shreds.
 
kcuf you jerkoff!!! I have plenty of respect for all families and crew on board. Nothing wrong with trying to understand what happened!!!

Out of respect to the families I will not reply to your comment.

NTSB.gov will have all the info at somepoint.

Fly safe...
 
Av8or19....................Everything you are saying is true (I guess it is), but look Man, 20 minutes after the plane goes down, that is just not the time to start rolling on them or the crew. You know as well as I do the guys on here are going to dissect thsi crash, and we're all going to give our input and thoughts. But, as a professional courtesy, we typically wait until we hear some facts about what happened. Guy on this board have friends, sisters, brothers, etc that were on that flight, or they know someone who does have an association to a pax or crew, and by taking pot shots like you are, it's disrespectful to not only those aboard, but also to those of us who might know someone aboard. Just save it for later and I look forward to hearing your thoughts then, when the time is right.
 
Buffalo news says the crew reported technical problem at some point during the approach or arrival. Don't know how reliable that is; probably not at all.
 
The reports coming out of Buffalo is that the plane crashed after reaching the outer marker. Hate to speculate but with the weather, could it be possible after putting in final flaps and with ice building up on the airplane that the plane had a tail stall? Didn't Comair have something like this happen many years ago with a Brasilia?
 
Just listened to the ATC tapes. Nothing solid, but her voice seems to change the further into the approach they got.

Damn this sucks...
 
any Q400 pilots on here...are there any goofy
characteristics associated with the plane? not speculating, just wondering.
 
Just listened to the ATC tapes. Nothing solid, but her voice seems to change the further into the approach they got.

Damn this sucks...
 
Fox news and MSNBC are saying that witnesses report a loud pop and fire from one of the engines before crashing.
 
any Q400 pilots on here...are there any goofy
characteristics associated with the plane? not speculating, just wondering.

I fly the Dash 300's (Q400 is a totally different Monster) and it can hold a ton of ice. I wouldn't think that ice would've brought this plane down.
 

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