CoEx hiring!

[hagen]

MJG you are really on crack if you think that once we get that last jet thats it...Yes for now thats the plan but when these 70-90 seaters start really competing against our routes you have to constantly change your busines plan to stay alive. you start weighing those extra seat miles on a 90 vs a 50 and it starts adding up. Nides and Ream aren't dummies..They have a plan past the 274 rj but they aren't telling....But you can ask him and he will tell you they have a plan. I already have...

 

[Sam Fisher]

Ok, so we get bigger jets.....don't think they'll be replacing some of our current jets Mr Hagen? There is only a finite amount of capacity that CAL will ever have XJT conduct for them. Unless we grow to fly on our own or for another airline....the game of musical chairs will stop at XJT in a few years.

Sam

 

[hagen]

Sam Valid point so please hurry up and get hired somewhere else. I need to upgrade before it stops

Cheers-n-Beers while we still can

 

[Sam Fisher]

SM....

You know I love you.

Sam

 

[Jetlink]

We

But when the 274th jet arrives, that's it, as far as we know. Once that happens then there will be ZERO movement, something that I can't seem to convince some of my fellow pilots of.

Um, the number of airframes has nothing to do with the number of pilots. Its block hours.

Comair flies approximately the same number of departures per day that COEX does, yet they do it with 85 less aircraft. How? COEX flies their planes 7:40 hrs per day avg and CMR 13.

Block hours, not airframes are what you need to look at. With 274 airplanes flying 7:40/day - you have the ability to double your pilot force with a simple increase in block hours.

Further, we are opening (COEX) 8 new stations in the first qrtr of 2004 alone - non-CAL stations that we are starting anew, and 10,000 block hour increase in the first qrtr as well.

The upgrades will be coming quickly again, as well as getting the 300+ CAL pilots back to their rightful company.

 

[Obi-Wan]

Further, we are opening (COEX) 8 new stations in the first qrtr of 2004 alone -

What are these new cities, can you list them please.

 

[flipflyr]

What are these new cities, can you list them please.

Took the words right out of mouth, Obi-Wan. I heard around the crewroom that one of the voice mail's said a few cities like Juarez and Bakersfield...


ff

 

[Ben Franklin]

I'll be laughing at you for a long time since it is clear you are a putz who can't spell and obviously didn't pass the IQ test in Dresser's interview process. I'm glad that our rather strict (and tough process admittedly) kept out an idiot like you. Its just too bad we've kept out some good ones along the way as well.

Sam

Yeah, it's that same process that may have kept me out but will FORCE you to "flow" to Continental airlines in about 20 years.

Once you FINALLY grow some sack and can handle some heavy iron like me - it will be where OH in Guam? What will you be flying over in Guam? yeah, that's right. NOTHING, because you'll be a SECOND officer doing fuel computations for a SCAB on the same DC-10 that my dad flew 25 years ago as CAPTAIN.

Have fun pulling gear forever.

Have fun flowing threw to Guam.

Have fun working on those fuel numbers for the last 5 years of your airline career.

Have fun NEVER making over $60,000 per year.

I will make WELL over $45,000 this year AND I am the PIC, next year looks even better for my paycheck, too!

Who's laughing now, HUH?!

Go COEX, GO!

 

[Ben Franklin]

I thank the lord for small mercies.

Is that what you say when you look at yourself in the mirror?

Are you an eternal First Officer at CALEX, too - wishing that you were a Captain and PIC like me?

I'm sorry.

Talk to a shrink and don't get amd at me becuause YOUR company and career are in the toilet.

 

[MJG]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Mr. maturity at his finest. Put the keyboard down son, it's time to do your homework, you've got to go back to school soon.

 

[hagen]

Ben you mean we are going to pull those 10s out of the desert? Cool personally I think anything that has 3 engines and smokes is cool!!!

Your still welcome to j/s anytime with us whenever you finally get a job or graduate from High school. I'd love the opportunity to smack you in the face a dozen or so times with my flight case.

Tell me Oh great one just WHO are you a capt with? You make well over 45 k huh? Wow big man. I can mow lawns all year and make that. I bet you have a big watch too!!! Have fun ordering stuff from Sporty's Chrismas catalog loser!!!

Dresser may have been a prick but at least he did some good by keeping scum like you off our seniority list.

The line for stupid know nothing azzholes is to the left...Oh wait I see your already in it

See ya tool bag....Better yet fcuk off!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Merry Christmas
You have wasted too much of my time off....

 

[Ben Franklin]

I can mow lawns all year and make that.

At least then you would be pushing equipment as PIC in your respective "field"

The piloting profession doesn't need bitter FO's like you anywhays. They need strong individuals like me leading people (my crew) into the 21st century of aviation.

I'm sorry that you have to depend on your captains to leave in order for you to get ahead in life at COEX. It also sucks that you have to depend on UNION SCABS (oxymoron of the centurey) to figure out your flowing through agreement that is supposed to help??? you?

How is reserve treating you?

I figure that I'll be asking you the same questions on this message board when I am an FO - AT A MAJOR AIRLINE when you are gloating about your HUGE FO pay rates at COEX - oooooohhhh, yeahh...

You can jumpseat with ME anytime, man. I get to make that call as PIC of the aircraft.

 

[Sam Fisher]

I'm done with this flamer....I mean flamebait.

Sam

 

[CrewDawg]

They need strong individuals like me leading people (my crew) into the 21st century of aviation

LOL......I don't like to sound immature but I just can't help myself after ben's previous post. Anybody else see arrogance just flaming from this comment and all the other posts on this thread by ben. By looking at the aircraft flown category, previous comments and most importantly his arrogance just makes me wonder if he went to the Air Force Academy.

 

[Ben Franklin]

Maybe if more had gone through the rigors of the service, they might respect people who are in professional poistions - like a PIC.

They also might want to work hard for the things that they have instead of complaning about there jobs and low pay.

The COEX pilots want a free job at a major becuase they work at COEX - they aren't willing to pay any dues to get it - like the rest of us in the industry. Do YOU want to associate with a bunch of brats who feel entitled to a job flying heavy iron, or do you want to feel proud of the company that you serve?

The choice is yours.

DAWG- it don't matter what you fly, F-117 or C-152. THere is a certain degree of professionalism required for flight. Some folks just don't have it.

I will still maintian that if you DON't want to be an eternal FO you should stay away from COEX altogether.

 

[hagen]

Ben seeing how you serve no purpose other than to entertain me (and you really do) I'll keep at it. Only because I like you ignorant non informed answers. But they make me chuckle

Yeah I've been logging that all valuable John deere and Allis Chalmers, oh and Ditch Witch PIC time since I was knee high to a grasshopper. Doesn't bother me..Never has and never will....

You still haven't answered my question Big Man...Yeah I work for Express Jet and proud of it...Who do you work for?? Riddle me that. I'd like to know just what "Heavy Iron" you are flying and who for or are you just on here when mommy and daddy is away?

Yes there is a certain degree of professionalsim...Doesn't matter PIC or not...Its the crew and its obvious that you didin't possess then or ever have the required communication skills to be a team player here. Thanks God for your lack of courtesy for that...

Come on now...Tell me who you work for...I have plenty of time off sitting reserve. I'll go out of my way to j/s on your flight. Thats right brother I'm calling you out right now!!!! Either put up or shut up!!!!!!!!

 

[CrewDawg]

I have gone through the rigors of the service, and I do have respect for those above me (such as PIC). But I also learned in the service that respect is earned not something that you are entitled to. As an example, as you well know officers in the military are saluted by anyone at a lower rank than them. But the way I and many others saw it, we either saluted the officer (someone I respected) or I saluted the Rank. My guess is if you walked around with the attitude you have on this post; many people saluted your rank.

 

[hagen]

I think he got picked on alot when he was younger because he wore a dress and heels..

That and he rode the small bus to school....TImmy....

Ben you still crack me up...Yeah I'll salute you right before you shine my shoes..Now go get your shinebox...Heres a dollar big man!!!

I still maintain that if you are a decent human being then come Jan throw your resume in. But if Ben was allowed to breed and you are of the same sloth gene pool as him please do us all a favor and go hide under the rock with him..

Oh and Sweet I have 69 posts!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks Ben...

 

[Sam Fisher]

Ben (Dover) didn't fly squat in the USAF. Nor does he have 15,000 hours. He's a putz.

Sam

 

[hagen]

Sam your my hero!!! first round is on you.

 

[Ben Franklin]

Wow, you guys gang up on people real nicely.

Is there some hidden group of reserve, forever FO's at COEX that go around to all of these boards and trash folks for posting ideas?

Neat-oh, pal.

Use protection when you guys get together next time, ok?

We don't want any more little eternal COEX FO's running around looking, acting and posting like you guys.

Why don't you all post your resume and REAL NAMES when you ask me for the same?

Harldy calling me out, wouldn't you say?

I have to go fly a real airplane now, have fun sitting on the couch dreaming of the left seat.

 

[Sam Fisher]

I have to go fly a real airplane now, have fun sitting on the couch dreaming of the left seat.

A real airplane that pays $45k to the PIC? Sign me up!

-PIC of an unreal airplane

 

[Ben Franklin]

A real airplane that pays $45k to the PIC? Sign me up!

-PIC of an unreal airplane

If you would quote someone, please make it accurate.

I said WELL OVER $45,000 this year with next year looking better.
I held off on the exact figure since most of you COEX pilots seem to have complexes anywhays - I didn't want to make it worse for you.

you = another wanna be COEX captain.

 

[hagen]

Ben this is my third (3rd) time to ask.....Tell me who do you fly for and what "Heavy Iron" do you fly? You have already invited me on your J/S. I told you put up or shut up...Again I ask plain and simple are you going to answer?

Your losing much "PIC" creditability by dodging this question. Are you a gasp "PIC" FRAUD like we all knew??? Come on big "PIC" man...

You apparently know it all. Yes I fly for Express Jet and yes I'm a f/o. Now how much longer am I going to have to keep asking? You tell me...........Plain and simple......You can't say because you lack the credentials, time, experience, maturity, and JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes its sad when little boys like yourself have to come on here just to cause problems....But I said you entertain me...Just like the clown you are.....So keep at it. I know you probably don't even have a pilots license...I know your not out of high school yet.. I know that your jeaulous....But mostly I know your a sad, pathetic human being who when confronted with an honest question can't admit that they have been lying the entire time..

Again I ask...Who and what do you fly.....
me Expressjet EMB-145 f/o IAH based.....
Your turn big guy!!!

 

[mckpickle]

Maybe if more had gone through the rigors of the service, they might respect people who are in professional poistions - like a PIC.

Righttttttttt and Make 45k a year flying "heavy metal"? You sir are unfreakin believable. And yes sir I am a 7 year captain at Express with 6000 hours and have paid my dues. My union negotiated job protection and a career enhancement that give me the RIGHT to go to CAL.

Thank god For Dresser keeping the likes of you away. He must have seen the Coat Hanger in your hand that you were born with.

 

[nimtz]

Again I ask...Who and what do you fly.....
me Expressjet EMB-145 f/o IAH based.....
Your turn big guy!!!

You forget to mention that you be UGLY too! OU sucks! Wait, I forget I can't use that one this year. F*cking Jason White...

 

[hagen]

Thats right...No ACLs mean sugar bowl bound baby.... Yeah I'm one ugly mother but man 2 national championships in 4 years and I get to see them both..Life is sweet...I'll let you buy me some celebration beers...How about that???

 

[Ben Franklin]

My union negotiated job protection and a career enhancement that give me the RIGHT to go to CAL.

Wait, let me guess that the "protection" that you are talking about is the part where 1,500 Continental Scabs came back on to YOUR seniority list and are all now PIC?

Pretty please with a cherry on top explain to me how your career has been "enhanced" by your Scab union.

WOW, 6,000 hours? Do you have a sticker on your flight bag that advertises that fact? Man, you must be the coolest pilot in the COEX crew room.

Hear me again: COEX WILL BE GONE IN 5 YEARS

Have fun pulling gear for me when you get hired at a real airline.

 

[Dr. Hootie]

It's too bad. This could have been a good forum to help answer some questions that are out there about XJT. It might be too late, but lets remember to ignore Ben Franklin in the future and keep our own discussions on track.

 

[hagen]

Oh Ben, Ben, Ben I how I can't wait too see what crap you throw up here. Its obvious to everyone that you know nothing about what you talk about. 1500 pilots and (scabs) huh.. Well if you knew anything about the hiring timeline then you would know that ZERO furloughs that came back were anywhere near the 84 hire date..

And another thing you frequent posts about PIC are funny. I can't remember the last time I went around saying gosh I wonder what PIC I'll be flying with is? You lack of jargon only prodtrudes your actual lack of airline operations.. You seem to hango n to that word like its the only one you know...And it might very well be..

Again I see that you chose not to post who and what you fly. So you leave me only to believe that my origional post was correct. You don't fly for anyone..Your only a bitter individual and one who has to get off on slamming a company you desperately wanted to work for...Its probably not worth me asking again seeing how you will just avoid the question....So seeing how your not going to put up..Just shut up!!!!