Co-pilot being sued in 135 Lear Jet crash...

[FN FAL]

"Co-pilot in fatal plane crash wasn't authorized to fly

By Valarie Honeycutt Spears

HERALD-LEADER STAFF WRITER

Records filed in a Florida court today allege that the co-pilot in a fatal 2002 plane crash at Blue Grass Airport admitted that he falsified a proficiency test and was flying illegally as a result."

News story on linky.....

 

[Angus]

Kill all lawyers... after we get all news reporters first.....

This is a quote: The copilot was "handling the breaking equipment". Any guess what "breaking" equipment is? Maybe it "breaks" the airplane. Also... how do you "handle" breaking equipment?

First... the reporter needs to go back to the 6th grade and learn the difference between the words "brakes" and "breaks".

Second.. unless the actions of the "non-qualified" First officer was a direct or contributing factor in the crash.... the judge should throw this out because the direct cause of the accident was more than likely improper procedures by the "Flying Pilot".

"I see stupid people.."

 

[FurloughedAgain]

When I left the airlines the very first thing I did was join AOPA and sign up for the Legal Protection Services that they offer. I think for an ATP it was less than $100 a year and I feel much more comfortable knowing that I have someone in my corner if I screw up.

If an accident or incident should occur and i'm involved that will be bad enough. The last thing I need is for some ambulence chaser to come after my family.

Hopefully i'll never have to use those services, but i'm comforted knowing they're there.

 

[waka]

They're suing an air ambulance Lear SIC......as in they expect money??

BA HA HA HA HA yeah!

....right after they get blood from a turnip.

 

[cvsfly]

If what they are saying is true about the falsified records, then I can't side with the pilot. And if it was a falsified checkride that the company conducted, I can't side with the company either. I don't care for lawyers either, but some people in this industry just give them too much to work with.

 

[YourNameHere]

Everyone hates lawyers...until you need one. Then they become your best friend.

 

[Ty Webb]

The question isn't of right or wrong. . . . . It's a question of, "How much justice can you afford?".

 

[Angus]

Everyone hates lawyers...until you need one. Then they become your best friend.

No..... we still hate them.

 

[88_MALIBU]

It is scary to think of the amount of liability we as pilots assume, legal or not.

 

[Dodge]

All this cat has to do is contact a former Mesaba pilot. We had a pilot who forged medicals for years. Rumor is that the feds let him off because it made them look bad, too.

 

[RJones]

Angus

No..... we still hate them.

__________________
"I see stupid people..."

No ... you hate them. When you need one, as I'm sure sometime in the future you will, they turn out to be a pretty good friend.

Have you ever looked in the mirror?

 

[Angus]

Angus



No ... you hate them. When you need one, as I'm sure sometime in the future you will, they turn out to be a pretty good friend.

Have you ever looked in the mirror?

No... WE hate them. I said what i said and i meant it. Feel free to disagree... but you'll still be wrong. Lawyers have consistently been shown in certain polls to be ranked in the top of the catagory among disliked and distrusted professions... kinda like a used car dealer, or a LCC Pilot.

I look in the mirror everyday... and smile when I see the smart person looking back at me..... who chose to only work for what I'm worth rather than work for what someone else thinks I'm worth, while THEY get rich. Can you say the same airline boy??

You're at SWA right?? Hard to miss the "hey everyone look at me" avatar you so proudly display can we? I see you chose to work for what someone else thinks you're worth.

I notice that as of the last 12 months, you SWA types are the real c*cky ones. How much did that type rating cost you?? Better go to work Sonny.... you gotta pay back that type rating you shelled out YOUR cash for.... and regardless how much you EARN in your career... that type rating money YOU spent is GONE... and you had to work at SWA to make money YOU generated at SWA to pay for it. Not real smart genius.

Maybe YOU need to look in the mirror. Better yet... you need to take a class in financing to see how SWA played a shell game on you.... with YOUR money. LOL!

Thanks for posting PFT boy.

 

[PseudoName]

Maybe YOU need to look in the mirror. Better yet... you need to take a class in financing to see how SWA played a shell game on you.... with YOUR money. LOL!

Thanks for posting PFT boy.

Finally someone posted it........SWA is a friggin PFT company. All the SWA pilots defend paying for the type and say hey the joke is on all of us who haven't or won't get hired there. I say, the joke is on every one of the SWA pilots. As Stinky Angus put it, SWA played a shell game with the pilots money.

PFT=SWA

Here's SWA new reservation number.

1-800-I-FLY-PFT

 

[qmaster3]

Angus where is the LUV, you're not feeling it?


NICE avatar rj.

 

[Dave Siegel]

Angus where is the LUV, you're not feeling it?


NICE avatar rj.

RJ's the man! After all, he's at Southwest!

 

[TrafficInSight]

I find it hard to side with the pilot on this one too. If you're not legal to fly, whether you're good at it or not, if something happens then someone's going to find out. Whether what you did or didn't do was the cause or not then they're going to go after you. The moral to the story is always be legal to fly.

Just like ramp checks, they go after photocopied weight and balances, improper POH, missing screws, and TSO tags on seatbelts because those things are EASY to bust you on.

 

[Dave Siegel]

I'm going to be nice.

 

[TrafficInSight]

Here's a free lesson, Son.

Weather--as in, "look at the great weather, not a cloud in the sky!"
Whether--as in, "whether you like it or not, you can't spell"
Wether--as in, "I'm an illiterate idiot, wether I like it or not!"

The moral of the story is: Learn how to spell!

Thanks so much for the gracious advice, usually I catch errors like that before I post.

A wether, for the sake of "free lessons" as you put it, is a castrated sheep so your third sentence makes no sense.

 

[Malcolm]

Thanks so much for the gracious advice, usually I catch errors like that before I post.

A wether, for the sake of "free lessons" as you put it, is a castrated sheep so your third sentence makes no sense.

Hey... lets not be talking too loudly about castration now... there are puppies listening you know.

 

[TrafficInSight]

Hey... lets not be talking too loudly about castration now... there are puppies listening you know.

Apologies to any of the puppies in the audience

 

[100LL... Again!]

No sympathies here.

When an unquaified pilot flies, they are taking away a poition from a qualified pilot.

Posers often do not get caught. Sometimes they do.

 

[N4niner206]

Grammar

I love it how all the pilots on these message boards feel the need to be grammar and spelling police. I wonder what causes that?

 

[Angus]

I love it how all the pilots on these message boards feel the need to be grammar and spelling police. I wonder what causes that?

It's caused by stupid illiterate pilots posting on the internet when they should be logged onto hooked-on-phonics.

Any other illiterate questions??

 

[Dave Siegel]

GO SOUTHWEST!!!

 

[Daveman]

Hey... lets not be talking too loudly about castration now... there are puppies listening you know.

Excuse me...

Hey Malcolm...., your avatar? Bro, I swear I've flown with that guy.

Continue...

 

[N4niner206]

Or it comes from having nothing better to do but endless complaining. When you run out of things to complain about, you can always complain about "Whaaa I have nothing to complain about!" Anything to get up on the high-horse I suppose. But then again, Angus agrees with you, so it must be right! I stand corrected.

 

[Angus]

Or it comes from having nothing better to do but endless complaining. When you run out of things to complain about, you can always complain about "Whaaa I have nothing to complain about!" Anything to get up on the high-horse I suppose. But then again, Angus agrees with you, so it must be right! I stand corrected.

Quite ironic post you decided to make there Sparky...... considering YOUR post that I responded to was in regards to YOU complaining about the "grammar and spelling police".

Actually "ironic" isn't the right word... how about "moronic"... thats a more fitting description for you.

 

[N4niner206]

If only the aviation industry was as predictable as that one, we'd all be fat, happy, and rich

All in good fun.

 

[TrafficInSight]

It's the ONLY thing (other than the hats) that distinguish us from truckers. If you want to be treated as a professional, then represent yourself in a professional manner! I'm a pretty young pilot too, so don't use youth as an excuse for ignorance. It seems like Angus has been around the block a few times, and he agrees with me.

TrafficInSight,

For the record, I don't know exactly what you're doing with your "wether", but please, keep it to yourself! I'm sure that sheep starts shaking everytime he smells you coming.

Whether or not I do anything with wether depends on the weather I suppose, which right now is not good enough to fly... oh well.

At any rate, people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones and my response to you was just to illustrate that "pobody's nerfect." And if you want to be the spelling police I can be the vocabulary police and we can police each other until the wether come home.

So lighten up

 

[avoidingmyboss]

Oh boy we're fishing does anyone have anymore bait?