CNN reporting a Lear Jet down at Chicago Executive, Wheeling?

[bizjet800]

CNN is reporting a Lear Jet Cargo plane down north of Chicago. Details were limited. It looked pretty bad.

 

[JessMan]

Royal Air Learjet down in KPWK

Just in on Fox News, possibly RAX988. Doesn't look good, God Bless them.

 

[mx284]

Royal Air Lear down

FN reporting Royal Air cargo learjet down while on approach just south of Chicago Exec

Thoughts and prayers to the crew and families......

 

[satpak77]

Chicago paper stated it was "Royal Air"

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/...in-forest-preserve-near-wheeling-airport.html

Posibly this one?

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/RAX988/history/20100105/1841Z/KPTK/KPWK

THE ABOVE IS UN-CONFIRMED INFORMATION !!!

 

[Metro752]

It was 988.

 

[johnsonrod]

Rip!!!!!

 

[CMI]

Does not sound good.

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/...in-forest-preserve-near-wheeling-airport.html

http://cbs2chicago.com/local/river.plane.crash.2.1406545.html

 

[rubicon789]

Thoughts and Prayers to the family

 

[clr4theapch]

Rest in Peace... God speed to the families...

Posts merged to keep everything together..

 

[A1FlyBoy]

Lear Jet down @ PWK

A plane has crashed in the Des Plaines River in a forest preserve south of the [URL="http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/neighborhoods.html?region=1435491"]Chicago[/URL] Executive Airport in Wheeling, airport spokeswoman Laura Witlox said.
Video of the scene shows the plane broken up in the river near Euclid Avenue.
The Learjet was making an approach to a runway at the airport about 1:30 p.m. when it went down about a quarter-mile north of Euclid Avenue, according to Tony Molinaro of the Federal Aviation Administration.
The plane was on final approach to runway 34, had been cleared for normal approach and was making a normal approach when it went down in the Des Plaines River about a mile south of the airport, according to a recorded message from the FAA.
The FAA said that the plane's tail number is N720RA and that a pilot and copilot were on the plane. Their conditions are unknown. The agency was unsure if there were any more people on the plane.
The agency did not know the plane's departure airport.
Witlox said it was a Royal Air cargo jet.
A woman who answered the phone at Royal Air Freight Inc., in Waterford, Mich., declined comment, saying the company was still trying to gather information on the crash.
According to airplane registration records, the aircraft is registered at 2141 Airport Rd. in Waterford, Mich.
The FAA and the National Transportation Safety Board are both investigating.
A Cook County Forest Preserve is in that area and includes the River Trails Nature Center. The Des Plaines River runs through that area.
The airport, formerly know as the Palwaukee airport, is located at the northeast corner of the intersection of Palatine Road and Milwaukee Avenue (also called U.S. Hwy. 45 and Ill. Hwy. 21).

 

[Bringupthebird]

Crew initials when they're released, please.

 

[ableone]

My condolences to the families of two of our brothers who were of the order of the sleepless night.

 

[landlover]

cleared unrestricted climb for 2 fallen dogs.

 

[J.Otto]

METARs?

 

[lansen]

God speed boys R.I.P. Our thoughts and prayers are with you and your families from your brothers across the field.

 

[cherry20's]

I saw the video on the news... It didn't look very good. My thoughts and prayers go out to all the Family and friends.

Blue Skies and Tailwinds forever!

RIP Freight Dogs!

 

[CherryBomb]

Rest in peace Lear freight dogs...

 

[Gearmonkey]

METARs?

[FONT=Monospace,Courier]KPWK 051952Z 33010KT 10SM FEW060 M06/M11 A3018 RMK AO2 SLP231 T10561111[/FONT]
[FONT=Monospace,Courier]KPWK 051941Z 33009KT 10SM FEW060 M06/M11 A3018 RMK AO2[/FONT]
[FONT=Monospace,Courier]KPWK 051852Z 31009KT 10SM FEW025 BKN055 M06/M11 A3019 RMK AO2 SLP232 T1061111[/FONT][FONT=Monospace,Courier]

Apparently about 10 minutes prior there was a PIREP by a Lear 35 of Moderate Icing NE of Chicago according to another website.

RIP guys
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[8sugarsugar]

I noticed Royal launched 3 more revenue trips out of PTK after the crash...small company like should shut down ops and give people time

makes me shake my head...RIP

 

[DUATS]

I hate that ILS-16 circle to Rwy 34, cancel IFR before the circle. Tight turn at low altitude. Sucks.


"Eternal rest grant unto them O Lord and let perpetual light shine upon them."

 

[Gearmonkey]

I hate that ILS-16 circle to Rwy 34, cancel IFR before the circle. Tight turn at low altitude. Sucks.


"Eternal rest grant unto them O Lord and let perpetual light shine upon them."

I don't know what's worse, that or the stupid departure off of 16.

 

[nismo611]

just did this ILS to circle a few weeks ago in the middle of night in the snow it does suck any time any conditions. The departure blows too.

 

[Limeyflyer]

I used to fly out of KPTK and see the Royal guys all the time; thoughts and prayers to friends, families, and coworkers

 

[Hook 'Em Horns]

Any circle at minimums will require tight turns at low speed and altitude. Why is PWK any different?

As for the departure, I've done it many times in Lear 35 and 60 aircraft. Just like departing from any other Class D, keep the speed below 200 and turn with 30 degrees of bank. I don't mean to be obnoxious, but it isn't difficult.

I expect alarmist reactions from the media, but from pilots? Come on, man. Leave the, "Why are pilots required to make such difficult maneuvers?" nonsense to the media.

 

[rumrnr78]

At my last corporate job we were not allowed to go to KPWK. Not sure why, since I went in there a bunch flying fractional. RIP to the crew. Please post intials when possible my primary instructor was working there.

 

[RedGuy]

I noticed Royal launched 3 more revenue trips out of PTK after the crash...small company like should shut down ops and give people time

makes me shake my head...RIP

Why should we shut down? The Captain was a good friend of mine, but I'm ready to go to work. This is a fact of life in this industry. In the 13 years I've been in it I've lost half a dozen friends, just suck it up, learn from their mistakes and keep on going.

 

[filejw]

Sorry to hear of your loss. Ref shut down, most people want to keep moving in situation like this. Sitting around really doesn't help.

 

[A1FlyBoy]

Reports today are that the aircraft had problems in flight last Thursday and had to be turn back out of Michigan last week?

 

[RedGuy]

Not to be a jerk, but you guys aren't going to solve the crash, just leave it alone and send you condolances.

 

[satpak77]

(walking the fine line between speculation and "discussion".....)

I am of the opinion that for a perfectly operating airplane to crash as it was in the landing phases, this accident has something to do with configuration changes, airspeed, ice, or similar.

The graphic on the Chicago newspaper site,

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/PLANE-CRASH2.gif

seems to show the accident site almost directly on final to the runway. I wonder if in the circle to land, they didn't try to tighten it up and "make" the final

again, walking that fine line.....

RIP guys