Close KLEX!

[flyby]

Why stop at closing runway 26? I can guarantee KLEX will never have another accident if they close the entire airport. I think the Kentucky Governor is onto something here. We should close all short runways at all airports where there is 121 service. It's the only way to be sure.

You Kentuckians are lucky to have such a critical thinker.

http://www.kentucky.com/mld/kentucky/15390602.htm

 

[Dangerkitty]

Why stop at closing runway 26? I can guarantee KLEX will never have another accident if they close the entire airport. I think the Kentucky Governor is onto something here. We should close all short runways at all airports where there is 121 service. It's the only way to be sure.

You Kentuckians are lucky to have such a critical thinker.

http://www.kentucky.com/mld/kentucky/15390602.htm

Better yet, why dont we close all airports nationwide and ban all airplanes. Then there would never be another aviation accident.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

Ah Kentucky....4 million people, and 10 last names.

 

[BoilerUP]

Hey now, don't hate on the home state! Don't make me break out any Ohio (or Michigan, or Tennessee, or Flordia, or Texas, or New York, or California) jokes...:laugh:

Gov Fletcher has a point in that, operationally, 8/26 is rarely used. As someone who has hundreds of operations at LEX (most working for Charlie Monette), I really don't think its presence would be missed, even by primary students.

They have discussed lengthening 26 to 5000-7000 feet (or putting in an 8000-9000ft parallel to 4/22) as part of the airport Master Plan, but that was a couple years ago and was nixed by the wealthy landowners & horse farmers surrounding Blue Grass Airport. This accident *might* provide the funding and political capital to make that expansion happen. That is probably what this article is really all about.

 

[CitationLover]

didn't this governor violate DC ADIZ in a king air or was that a senator from the commonwealth?

 

[Gofish]

Hey Boiler...ever land 26 in PHL?

 

[twepilot]

I have an idea...why dosen't someone insist on more than just "adequate" rest rules for both crew and controller. While we're at it we could reinforce the complacency kills concept. And oh yes, maybe we could mention that accidents do infact happen until such a time all human intervention with things mechanical ceases. On second thought, kneejerk government reaction is probably just alot easier.

RV

 

[BoilerUP]

didn't this governor violate DC ADIZ in a king air or was that a senator from the commonwealth?

The State of Kentucky B200 (former Army C12, one of the oldest of that model still flying) had a transponder failure enroute to DCA and coordinated with ARTCC to continue for Reagan's funeral. Unfortunately, the FAA failed to communicate with the Air Force...and all hell broke loose.

Hey Boiler...ever land 26 in PHL?

All the time...

 

[RP 04]

The State of Kentucky B200 (former Army C12, one of the oldest of that model still flying) had a transponder failure enroute to DCA and coordinated with ARTCC to continue for Reagan's funeral. Unfortunately, the FAA failed to communicate with the Air Force...and all hell broke loose.



All the time...

How come you elected to continue to DC, with a busted transponder? Kind of stupid, don't ya think?

 

[flyby]

I have an idea...why dosen't someone insist on more than just "adequate" rest rules for both crew and controller. While we're at it we could reinforce the complacency kills concept. And oh yes, maybe we could mention that accidents do infact happen until such a time all human intervention with things mechanical ceases. On second thought, kneejerk government reaction is probably just alot easier.

RV

I like those ideas.

Why can't they just modifly the signs at intersections to indicate the runway remaining for that entry to the runway. For example:

RWY 26-3.5/08-.1. There could be variations to this, like if your runway remaining is less than 1000 feet the sign would have an X on it...

RWY 26-3.5/08-XX

I guess ya'll get the point. It seems like a fundamental piece of information that is cumbersome to locate on the chart. I know performance data is respective to weight but it sure would be good for sit. awareness to have a length.

This accident is going to save lives... some day.

 

[Coexclown]

Rw4

Not to thread drift...but anyone notice RW4 in LEX is different on the jepps than actual?
A1 has been moved to the beginning of RW4...A3 is missing the number...and there are 2 entrances to the runway not listed on 11-1....

that's ok, we don't need the exact layout i guess

PS no notams associated with that

 

[BoilerUP]

How come you elected to continue to DC, with a busted transponder?

Um, I didn't.

Kind of stupid, don't ya think?

If Indy Center says its okay for a governmental aircraft to continue to DCA with a transponder failure (which they did), no, I don't think its stupid. Personally, what I think is stupid is how the FAA and US military don't communicate with each other - that could easily have gotten people killed.

 

[paulsalem]

New rule we can all agree on.

All runways must be atleast 15,000 feet long.

 

[PunchTheClown]

Better yet, why dont we close all airports nationwide and ban all airplanes. Then there would never be another aviation accident.

Perfect, then we can all go get worthwhile careers!

Your is by far the best idea I've heard in a long time.

 

[Gofish]

All the time...[/quote]

Glad to hear you gotta pair.

 

[Say Again Over]

It's ridiculous to taxi down a runway to get to another, at many airports in Europe they have lighting built in to taxiways called stop bars, this type of lighting should be in place to indicate the runway not in use, especially at a non standard, back woods airport layout.

 

[SBD-2U3]

New rule we can all agree on.

All runways must be atleast 15,000 feet long.

Awesome. What Runway Analysis.

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

We'd still be weight restricted in the summer out of DEN on those runways

 

[paulsalem]

Ok how about every airport is 20,000' x 20,000'. Have in pavement lighting every 10 feet or so both N/S and E/W (making a big grid of lights). The lights will be able to have their color changed via a computer in the tower. That way you can have multiple runways all aligned with the wind, no matter what direction it is. And have taxi ways to serve those runways.

Also have contaminated runway mode: The entire square of pavement is outlined in white edge lights, making one 20,000' x 20,000' runway. Land, and slide any way you want to, just keep it up on the wheels.

This would have prevented the Comair accident and the SWA accident at MDW last winter.

 

[COOPERVANE]

Paulsalem, I have to know. What is the background on your avatar?

 

[paulsalem]

Paulsalem, I have to know. What is the background on your avatar?

I just saw the picture and thought it was quite funny. Unfortunately after much googling, I can't find history of it.

 

[DrProc]

How come you elected to continue to DC, with a busted transponder? Kind of stupid, don't ya think?

You must have been flying that Japanese 767 that had an autopilot failure and they declared an emergency and actually HAND FLEW it.

 

[ultrarunner]

Ah Kentucky....4 million people, and 10 last names.

Yep. Not much of a gene pool down there. Which accounts for not much forward thinking.

Oh well.

 

[temcgrew]

how about having guys with wands at every runway, giving us a nice salute every time we took off. That would make the TopGun guys feel right at home.

 

[propilot1983]

Fletcher just got cleared of all his misdemeanor charges for his hiring practices...so now he's back to doing more politicing so he can get relelected. KY needs a new Gov.