CJC Service Cut at LGA

[Snaab]

Got the email about our service reductions at LGA. I'm a little cloudy about what "pull down" service means. Are we, in fact, pulling out/cutting all service in September??

-Snaab

 

[SmitteyB]

Okay- not a good day for anyone at Colgan.

Highlighs of the Call

-Pulling 4 or 5 SAABs out of the US Airways Express system.
-3 Aircraft pulled from SYR, 1 from ALB, 1 from PVD (PVD will close as a base)
-Colgan is reducing the flying, Airways is not taking it away. Will be replaced with PDT.
-Still waiting for EAS awards in LEB, BHB, AUG, PKB, MGW, CKB
-No pilot furloughs until November 1st
-Will furlough by order of seniority (Surprising)
-50 to 60 Pilots will be furloughed forseeable.
-40 Flight Attendants will be furloughed.
-Voluntary furloughs bids will begin next week (90 days)
-Still looking at Q400 possible homes. Cannot take delivery of ANY Q400 until 3rd/4th Quarter 2009 at the earliest
-Trying to place the 4 or 5 SAABs with other carriers, no one really interested right now.

Hopefully this all works out and we can keep our EAS stuff so people don't have to be furloughed.

 

[LowlyPropCapt]

I was going to post about this, but I didn't want to scare anyone...

Some of us Piedmonsters noticed that we have LGA-PVD, LGA-ALB and LGA-SYR (good thing we closed that base ) in September. What airplanes we are going to use for this I don't know, but the schedule has it as a Dash 8-100. I can't seem to find from where, but I cannot imagine we aren't losing flying someplace else to do this... The fleet is stretched thin as it is.

Best of luck to you Colgan folks. Tough market. If oil gets much higher I fear we will all be looking for work in the food service or day labor industries.

 

[Boilermaker98]

MDT is losing the twice a day PIT roundtrip, and looks like the CLT r/t also...both starting in September.

 

[suupah]

I wouldn't be surprised if CJC was gone in a year if fuel doesn't come down. The Q program could be sold off and the rest be dissoved.

 

[olympus593]

I think we (PDT) are getting 1 more airplane this summer and keeping it for the rest of the year, they also said each airplane is going to be flying more hours per day.

 

[labbats]

MDT is losing the twice a day PIT roundtrip, and looks like the CLT r/t also...both starting in September.

MDT is getting hit hard then. Eagle is closing it entirely.

On the upside maybe this will give them the ability to fix the bumpiest runway in America.

 

[Sig]

To the tiny pr!ck that made the "still in SYR" joke in another thread... suck it.

To everyone else affected by this, tough times ahead and good luck. We are ALL going to need it.

As far as Peeved/mounted doing the flying-- hang on. I bet it could get as nasty as it ever was. I can see it happening if the fleet were tip-top... sorry, just choked and fell off my chair... There's no way pulling ERL back into the system, shutting down the paint line and pushing block any further will get the flying done.

 

[WSurf]

The fleet is stretched thin as it is.

Cough, Cough-Horizon. Cough, Cough-Q200's

Cough, Cough!


wink wink

 

[Fred Rogers]

This is no fun for anyone.

This Colganoscopy is going to be checking your throat from the south end.

We are going to be "doin da colgan" from a burger king drive through window. Hey! Maybe the burger king in HEF will finally have some english speaking employees!

Best of luck everyone involved!!!!!!!!!!

 

[mu2]

If any of you Colgan guys need a ride home to SYR you are welcome on Piedmont. You guys took care of us getting to and from work after SYR closed. I hear some good stories about some of the things you have done to make sure we got on the last flight of the night so we could get home.

 

[LowlyPropCapt]

If any of you Colgan guys need a ride home to SYR you are welcome on Piedmont. You guys took care of us getting to and from work after SYR closed. I hear some good stories about some of the things you have done to make sure we got on the last flight of the night so we could get home.

Mega dittos. Welcome aboard.

 

[I_Love_Lamp]

This couldn't happen to a nicer group of people.

Not.

Good riddance. Hopefully this is only the beginning of the downfall.

And here comes someone chiming in on "well don't wish bad for the pilots"...

Well, Colgan has never been anything but a horrible place to work, so the pilots only have themselves to blame.

That being said I've met some nice Colgan people but they still work for the lowest common denominator.

 

[AirHead99]

Piedmont is ceasing all service to IPT.

 

[olympus593]

Piedmont is ceasing all service to IPT.

To bad had a lot of fun at cellblock...

 

[LowlyPropCapt]

Piedmont is ceasing all service to IPT.

Source?

It's still in the schedule, DH8 3X/day in Sept, Oct, Nov and Dec.

 

[LowlyPropCapt]

Oops, found it.

http://www.examiner.com/a-1467129~Williamsport_s_only_airline_says_service_will_end.html

...I'll be damned. Good overnight too.

 

[OPECJet]

Oops, found it.

http://www.examiner.com/a-1467129~Williamsport_s_only_airline_says_service_will_end.html

...I'll be damned. Good overnight too.

That does suck. Very good overnight. Don't worry though, they'll make it up with an extra ELM overnight in the Econolodge. Somebody ought to be tarred and feathered over that piece of dreck...

 

[I_Love_Lamp]

That does suck. Very good overnight. Don't worry though, they'll make it up with an extra ELM overnight in the Econolodge. Somebody ought to be tarred and feathered over that piece of dreck...

Free popcorn, cookies, videos (not the dirty kind), a strip mall nearby...

That's not that bad of an overnight. I preferred it to the ALB B/W (I hate that place).

IPT was an okay overnight. It's definitely no SCE!!!

 

[Sig]

IPT was an okay overnight. It's definitely no SCE!!!

Easy, killer. My wife's a PSU alumna, so... yeah. But the IPT is lethal for us Irish types, especially if you eschew the snooty Bullfrog for the more pithy Kelly's.

Ditch the slam-clickers and run to Kelly's (my favorite quote is "Walk in with 15 bucks, walk out with 5 and a buzz")... my ultimate favorite thing to do. Don't get me started about ABE, though. I bet that's next.

 

[Flyer1015]

MDT is getting hit hard then. Eagle is closing it entirely.

Pinnacle hits it hard in MDT. Figuratively and literally speaking...

 

[LowlyPropCapt]

Pinnacle hits it hard in MDT. Figuratively and literally speaking...

Or attempts to hit it, gets lost in the woods and loses everything except ginormous wrist watch and flip flops.

:beer:

 

[I_Love_Lamp]

Easy, killer. My wife's a PSU alumna, so... yeah. But the IPT is lethal for us Irish types, especially if you eschew the snooty Bullfrog for the more pithy Kelly's.

Ditch the slam-clickers and run to Kelly's (my favorite quote is "Walk in with 15 bucks, walk out with 5 and a buzz")... my ultimate favorite thing to do. Don't get me started about ABE, though. I bet that's next.

No, I was saying SCE was my favorite overnight by far. But I was one of those college aged know nothing FOs when I was there. Now I'm slightly-above-college-aged know nothing FO.

ABE was pretty boring, nowhere to eat. ITH was fun (sucked in the winter). I was SYR based so my southernmost overnight was the rare PHL.

 

[Flyer1015]

Or attempts to hit it, gets lost in the woods and loses everything except ginormous wrist watch and flip flops.

:beer:

Oh, but he DID hit it.

AND, that FA is still at Pinnacle. I saw her getting off a flight she just worked at DTW.

 

[LowlyPropCapt]

Oh, but he DID hit it.

AND, that FA is still at Pinnacle. I saw her getting off a flight she just worked at DTW.

Always a good idea to keep talented employees around! It is good for morale!

 

[Snaab]

This couldn't happen to a nicer group of people.

Not.

Good riddance. Hopefully this is only the beginning of the downfall.

And here comes someone chiming in on "well don't wish bad for the pilots"...

Well, Colgan has never been anything but a horrible place to work, so the pilots only have themselves to blame.

You must be one of the spikey-haired, 19-year-old windbags that continue to plague our industry. Go back to Facebook or MySpce and tell your little girlfriends war stories from Jet U and the ERJ. I hope you fly with as many weathered, old school Captains as you can who just might teach you something about always looking out for your own. You're a disgrace to the profession.

 

[30West]

This couldn't happen to a nicer group of people.

Not.

Good riddance. Hopefully this is only the beginning of the downfall.

And here comes someone chiming in on "well don't wish bad for the pilots"...

Well, Colgan has never been anything but a horrible place to work, so the pilots only have themselves to blame.

That being said I've met some nice Colgan people but they still work for the lowest common denominator.

ALL regional pilots work for the lowest common denominator, numbnuts....

 

[better up here]

You must be one of the spikey-haired, 19-year-old windbags that continue to plague our industry. Go back to Facebook or MySpce and tell your little girlfriends war stories from Jet U and the ERJ. I hope you fly with as many weathered, old school Captains as you can who just might teach you something about always looking out for your own. You're a disgrace to the profession.

true.

 

[dcfu69]

Colgan air is still the best turboprop regional in the northeast. period. I hope every 50 seat regional pilot loses there job and all their money. And I hope sleezmont goes outta biz. I hate you guys. I rule.

 

[LowlyPropCapt]

Allow me to wax philisophical for a moment...

(Jumps on soapbox)

The present environment presents a strange diachotomy for a lot of pilots. You are concerned (or at least should be) for pilots who's companies are losing flying in part or completely. Yet you are also relieved and maybe a little bit happy about additional flying at your own company that is gained at the expense of others. It creates a schizophrenic emotional state where you are relieved yet you shouldn't show it as it is totally insensitive to those pilots who are enjoying far less fortune.

The days when flying 'belonged' to anyone are gone forever. We are in an era that increasingly has airlines as nothing more than holding companies for various shady corporate entities that all perform flying under the same banner. We are competitors, yet when operating under the same banner we all directly effect the success of everyone who's airplanes wear that paint. It is a bi-polar existance to say the least.

My unsolicited advice? If you are enjoying good fortune at the present, be thankful for it. Remain forever magnanimous and empathetic to pilots of other companies. Never forget that the airline biz is fickle and every company seems to have a turn at the top of the pile... And then at the bottom. We are all in the same boat. Anyone who rejoices at the thought of someone losing a job needs thier head examined. That is not the kind of person I ever want to share a flight deck with.

You never know who you might need a ride or a job from next. It may be every man for himself, but a little compassion for the other guy would go a long way toward making our collective situation a bit more tolerable. Personally, I think not doing so shows an extreme lack of maturity... Something severely lacking among pilots at all levels of the industry.

(Off of soapbox)