CitationAir & XO Jet?

[Jasper]

Why was the president of CitationAir and his VP of Scheduling(the ex-president's little brother) out at the XO Jet headquarters this past week? They didn't use a CitationAir plane. They flew out for the meeting on a Hawker.

 

[t-bone]

First I've heard of this. Did they fly out on an XOJet Hawker?

 

[rajflyboy]

Where is XO jet based?

 

[t-bone]

Corporate: SFO/Brisbane
Operations: MCC/Sacramento

 

[rajflyboy]

Good old Sacramento

 

[StickTime]

Huh

This is about the fourth time I've heard about this event.
So, what would be the advantage? XOJet isn't about to help out a competitor & just give up advise. Is BS out there to sell X's? But why would he have JO on his coat tail (SO retired from that)? Huh, is XOJet financially secure enough to buy out CA?
Intriguing stuff. I guess we will just have to wait a week or two to find out what XOJet & CitationAir disclose.

 

[X-rated]

My guess is XO might be looking for inexpensive airframes. I hear even with the rapid fleet growth, they still need more capacity.

 

[Newkem]

Another guess

My guess is XO might be looking for inexpensive airframes. I hear even with the rapid fleet growth, they still need more capacity.

My guess is Textron wants out of this money losing business. Yesterday. Could they be shopping for a buyer?

My guess is those who are stalking CA managements travel habits may find visits to floptions as well. Use common sense people. Why should Textron subsidize air travel for one percenters any longer?

 

[flyzimex]

I heard a couple of suits were visiting MCC last week, but I have know clue whether they were CA people or not.

 

[bailout]

the outcome: XO is doing supplemental lift for CAir for one of their clients.
So, in other words, CAir has chartered XO Jet.. Fact...

 

[dizzymesa]

Wait until Cessna gets a look at CitationAir's charter expense during the next quarter. Bye, bye BS, PM, JO...Doh!!

 

[NJAowner]

Actually just the opposite -- they could make $$. If you have a CA card and the flight is 3+ hours, XOJet charges less for the charter to someone off the street.

 

[dizzymesa]

Actually just the opposite -- they could make $$. If you have a CA card and the flight is 3+ hours, XOJet charges less for the charter to someone off the street.

It's still a LOT more than CA's internal cost, probably by a factor of 8-10. I've been told XO Jet is turning people away. Why would they want to do charter for CA?

 

[Sparse]

I see a lot of XO jets around. Most of them are sitting on the ramp with covers on.

 

[flyzimex]

I guess you are implying we don't fly much. Couldn't be further from the truth. I just came off a rotation of 12 days and I flew every day with an additional 55 hours in the logbook at the end of it. This rotation was not an exception to the norm.

Does our airplanes sit on the ramp every now and then? Of course, what operation flying biz jets doesn't have airplanes sitting on the ground at some point? The last few months our company fleet has averaged 100+ hrs per airplane, the X with even higher averages.

 

[brokeflyer]

lets talk about how much better netjets is.




lol

 

[t-bone]

I see a lot of XO jets around. Most of them are sitting on the ramp with covers on.

Well we do get at least 10 hours of rest per day, so perhaps that s when you are noticing our idle planes. I'm on the ground now for 18 hours in LAS, but have 7+44 of flight time scheduled today, all of which is occupied (meaning: paid for) except for an 8 minute repo leg. So I guess I'm not sure what you are saying? Check out flight aware next time you see an idle plane...my guess is that it hasn't been sitting long.

And as FZM said, this is pretty much normal.

Taxi out to rwy 29 in OAK @0300 and you could say the same thing about Southwest...