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[G100driver]

It is very simple. You have a POI who has signed off in house training and has also signed off on having an in-house check airman. Simple and as scary as that. I see it happen all the time.

135/91 operators are there are full of goofballs that think that they can do it better an cheaper. I have learned over the past few years that they are all full of $hit and to operate an airplane properly it take money ... lots of it. No buck ... no buck rodgers.

 

[G100driver]

As far as Wyvern goes ... unless the customer is savy, the broker does not care. Remember 98% of brokers are warts on a hogs ass. They own nothing and care only about themselves.

 

[HawkerF/O]

How can you be a Part 135 SIC without going to school and taking a checkride? There is no way that the MCI FSDO would give a Part 135 checkride to a CFI with no time in type, right??? Please tell me so!!

FSDO made the SIC a PPE in the Challenger. If there is ever trouble that requires lawyers to get involved, and they find out the PIC went to the broker for the specific purpose of NOT having the SIC to go to school, hang on, cause the underwriter is going to write the check and walk away, leaving the operator to assume the rest of the liability.

With a Captain that has low time and an SIC with even less, how are they getting charter flights. It seems that most brokers are requiring both pilots to meet Wyvern standards.

You are missing the point. G100 is right, what does the broker care? He is just the middle man. It's the underwriter that assumes the liability. If there is ever litigation, the broker is just a witness at most. It's about EGOs. PIC does not want the principles to see that someone else is capable of flying the airplane. Funny though, the PIC goes to FSI every 6 months of course. He gets his training but Shi*s on the SICs keeping them from approved training, thus making them worthless in the open job market. Low rent and bottom feeding. I can assure you they are not doing supplemental lift for fortune 500s, so when Jon Smith calls needing a Challenger to impress his friends and ego, he just assumes that all is on the up and up and everyone is qualified. Doubh he would even know to ask the right questions.

 

[G100driver]

Hawker F/O, are you in the Washington area?