Citation Encore..The good, the bad?

[H.Agenda]

And any operational gotchas.. I would love to hear about them. Also is this plane approved to land on grass or unimproved runways? ie most runways in the bhms?

Mucho thanks in advance!

 

[LongBoarder]

Great plane... Expensive engines to overhaul... they do make a gravel runway kit for them that spins up the nosewheel with bleed air.... I have only seen a couple of 560's with that mod.

You give up a little fuel to get the trailing link gear... but the extra 500# of thrust a side is a nice thing, and allows you to get to altitude quicker than the Ultra or the straight V.

Very stable... easy to fly...

LB

 

[NCherches]

...on a side note the cockpit windows on the 550/560 series seem to be an issue. Luckly they last about 10 years but they usually develop cracks after about 3-4 years and then you go on an accelerated inspection ... every inspection brings the fear of replacement which is very expensive and time consuming.

 

[Chi Town]

We did hot sections for 70K on the encore. That seems to me to be pretty affordable. Great airplane to fly. Only problems is you can now get a used XL for about $1M more. Stand up cabin, APU, and Lav. XL will not be landing on gravel/grass runways though.

 

[H.Agenda]

This could be a dumb question but is a gravel kit required to land on grass per operating manual?

Great plane... Expensive engines to overhaul... they do make a gravel runway kit for them that spins up the nosewheel with bleed air.... I have only seen a couple of 560's with that mod.

You give up a little fuel to get the trailing link gear... but the extra 500# of thrust a side is a nice thing, and allows you to get to altitude quicker than the Ultra or the straight V.

Very stable... easy to fly...

LB

 

[NCherches]

I don't believe it is REQUIRED... I'm guessing it is going to be more up to your insurance provider than anything.

 

[H.Agenda]

I don't believe it is REQUIRED... I'm guessing it is going to be more up to your insurance provider than anything.

I think you are right. I found out that the gravel kit is 70K, is allegedly completely not worth it unless you are continuously going in and out of unimproved runways.

 

[NCherches]

70K sounds right since its about 7K worth of materials and its aviation so you add the zero and poof...

 

[avratdwc]

Great airplane, I have about 600 hrs in type. The power is very helpful and appreciated. Trailing link makes us look better, quite cabin, nice low fuel burns at altitude. All in all, a great airplane.

Let us know what premium the insurance company is going to charge for grass. I am always running in and out of the Bahamas, where ru looking to operate?

Avrat

 

[cezzna]

Good plane, had issues with emer press. I would select it at altitude after a two hour cold soak to see if it works, good chance it won't. Only other counter intuitive with it is the Ultra is a better high and hot airplane. If you are going to be a mountain troller, the U-boat has better numbers for takeoff in particular.

 

[NCherches]

I would select it at altitude after a two hour cold soak to see if it works, good chance it won't.

You were empty right?

 

[H.Agenda]

Great airplane, I have about 600 hrs in type. The power is very helpful and appreciated. Trailing link makes us look better, quite cabin, nice low fuel burns at altitude. All in all, a great airplane.

Let us know what premium the insurance company is going to charge for grass. I am always running in and out of the Bahamas, where ru looking to operate?

Avrat

Marsh harbor, abaco, are a couple places I know we'll go in the bhms. The grass rnwys I'm thinking of are in FL and 5000+ ft. I'll see what they say.

 

[NJAowner]

MYAM is not a grass runway. In fact they just opened a new runway a few months ago.

 

[H.Agenda]

I know.