CIA Aviation

[KarmaPolice]

An Ivy League degree? WOW. I'm surprised they haven't called you yet.

 

[Pistlpetet]

Whether or not I know anything about possible CIA aviation, accession requirements, stationing or types of aircraft, if any, is not the point.

The point is, that in a time of war, it is inappropriate or an OPSEC violation, depending on your status, to discuss the methods and practices of an agency that performs your nations covert or clandestine operations.

GV

OPSEC? You are way off, and seem to be one of these guys who likes to play "I have a secret". It is not "News" that the CIA uses contractors. Nobody said anything about Aircraft, locations, or practices.

CIA contract overflights of the EU has been the hot news item for some time now.

Don't be so arrogant to think that you are the only one on this board who is in the know.

 

[GVFlyer]

OPSEC? You are way off, and seem to be one of these guys who likes to play "I have a secret". It is not "News" that the CIA uses contractors. Nobody said anything about Aircraft, locations, or practices.

CIA contract overflights of the EU has been the hot news item for some time now.

Don't be so arrogant to think that you are the only one on this board who is in the know.

I never professed to have any specfic knowledge about the CIA's or anyone else's classified activities. But if you do and you divulge them you should be referred to your information manager.

As a military officer you should also know that if you hold classified material and you see it published, you are still required to remain silent about it and cannot divulge it simply because you think it has been compromised.

GV

 

[NJAFracPilot]

OPSEC? You are way off, and seem to be one of these guys who likes to play "I have a secret". It is not "News" that the CIA uses contractors. Nobody said anything about Aircraft, locations, or practices.

CIA contract overflights of the EU has been the hot news item for some time now.


Don't be so arrogant to think that you are the only one on this board who is in the know.

What a punk! You're the dude playing "I have a secret", Petie. All the other guy was saying is STFU.

It's doubtful an Army helicopter pilot knows anything about what the CIA is doing with their jets anyway. Poser.

 

[aussiefly]

The reality is that if you have to be asking questions about which companies are contracted by various government agencies then you probably do not have the background they are seeking.

The PMC community is rather small and then to split that into companies that have flying op's is even smaller. To get on at one of these places you really need to have some connections in that industry. And anyway why would you want to fly for one of these outfits when there are numerous other good corporate gigs around that QOL and pay are much better.

If you are solely looking for the supposed `excitement' buzz or the `prestige' (when you cant tell anyone what you do) I think you will be sorely dissapointed. If you want to be at the pointy end then enlist or apply to the agency. Contract flying is unlikely to get you there with your background.

Whichever way you go Good luck.

 

[Pistlpetet]

It's doubtful an Army helicopter pilot knows anything about what the CIA is doing with their jets anyway. Poser.

Thanks for your advice Tool. I was an Army pilot in my past life. FYI the PMC flying contracting world is mostly Former Army heavy.

Have fun flying for your chump change.

 

[NorthShore]

Old saying.

Those who talk don't know.
Those who know don't talk.

BTW. I don't know.

 

[pilotyip]

NJAFrac pilot again shows the ignorance of fixed wing pilots understanding of the true talent our brother rotor wing flyers. Having hired many ex military helo drivers, about 25% of pilot force, some with a little as 100 hrs of fixed wing time, non-who has ever flown at jet, I can speak first hand their talent. I have never had an ex military helo driver fail initial or upgrade training moving into the DA-20. Where they really blown their fixed wing contemporaries away is in the simulator, they have a very light control touch, and fly very smoothly. Unlike the heavier handed King air and Baron drivers. Employers who do not value military multi-crew IFR rotor wing time are missing out on a lot of very talented pilots. BTW I flew the C1A off of the CVAN-65, it had two 1820’s rated at 1525 HP for takeoff, Grossed at 26,000#’s

 

[pilotyip]

whoops that is the Charlie One Alpha C1A

 

[NJAFracPilot]

Have fun flying for your chump change.

I guarantee you I have a better QOL, have more time off and make more money than anyone at GRI, CSC / Dyncorp or Blackwater... and nobody shoots at me.

 

[pilotyip]

Blackwater pays well

Fracpilot I doubt you make more than a Blackwater pilot flying overseas right now, I understand it is in excess of $200K per year, first 85K tax free. QOL well maybe you got one there

 

[NJAFracPilot]

NJAFrac pilot again shows the ignorance of fixed wing pilots understanding of the true talent our brother rotor wing flyers. Having hired many ex military helo drivers, about 25% of pilot force, some with a little as 100 hrs of fixed wing time, non-who has ever flown at jet, I can speak first hand their talent. I have never had an ex military helo driver fail initial or upgrade training moving into the DA-20. Where they really blown their fixed wing contemporaries away is in the simulator, they have a very light control touch, and fly very smoothly. Unlike the heavier handed King air and Baron drivers. Employers who do not value military multi-crew IFR rotor wing time are missing out on a lot of very talented pilots. BTW I flew the C1A off of the CVAN-65, it had two 1820’s rated at 1525 HP for takeoff, Grossed at 26,000#’s

Right, I should have realized that the CIA reads the Army helicopter pilots on to all their operations before pulling the trigger.

You gotta learn to actually read a post before responding to it, Yip. I never questioned Army helicopter pilot competence, they're great. We have a bunch of them here.

I was questioning James Bond, Jr's claim that he was some kind of major spook.

The guys I've met that do that kind of work (not PMC's) are all professional liars that have a rehearsed line about why they're where they are, who they work for and what they're doing. The last thing they'd ever do is own up to who they really work for.

BTW, the COD is the ugliest airplane I've ever seen.

 

[pilotyip]

COD may be ugly, but when she is the only girl at the dance, she looks pretty good. Plus landing on the ship was fun.

 

[aussiefly]

COD may be ugly, but when she is the only girl at the dance, she looks pretty good. Plus landing on the ship was fun.

hahahahha spoken like a true aviator YIP

Cheers Mate

 

[GVFlyer]

COD may be ugly, but when she is the only girl at the dance, she looks pretty good. Plus landing on the ship was fun.

You have to be careful what you say about a man's aircraft. I once told a Coastie at Bates Field that I thought the HU-16 Albatross was the ugliest airplane that I had ever seen. He about knocked me off my bar stool (you kinda have to consider the environ and hour in which the comment was made).

Seems he and the old girl had been through quite a lot together because people in the Mobile area aren't smart enough to park their boat when the storm comes.

I tried to land a helicopter on a carrier once...almost missed it. The darned runway was moving away from me at 30 knots and at an angle to boot!

I used to frequently fly into NS Rota, Spain in a C-21A. I would always try to follow the [SIZE=-1]"Meatball" (Fresnel Lens) to the carrier deck marked on Runway 28. Mostly missed that, too.

I loved those Lingerie Fashion Show Charity Sales events that the Officer's Wives Club used to model for at the Rota O Club. Uh-oh, my thread drift detector just swung into the red arc.

I decided that I was pretty happy that I didn't have an aviation job where the most difficult thing I was going to do all day was to just come home at night.

Hats off to you and all other carrier pilots.


GV
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