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The Rep/U deal was an equity deal. Republic does not want to own the surviving carrier, just current assets. I was led to believe by S5 management that the Am. West/U deal was good for REP, in that U doesn't want to worry about the 170 stuff while they are dealing with merger and integration issues.
I am by no means a CEO, however, when you offer to invest 125 million in a company, you tend to want to know what is going on with future plans. If you are a top manager, you don't just make a phone call one day and say, "Hey, wanna merge?", these things take time. I think REP knew about this when they purchased Shuttle, and I am pretty sure REP knew about this when they purchased the MDA division of U.
I may be wrong, but I may be right.
I am by no means a CEO, however, when you offer to invest 125 million in a company, you tend to want to know what is going on with future plans. If you are a top manager, you don't just make a phone call one day and say, "Hey, wanna merge?", these things take time. I think REP knew about this when they purchased Shuttle, and I am pretty sure REP knew about this when they purchased the MDA division of U.
I may be wrong, but I may be right.
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Merged Airline Will Cut Transcons, Shift CRJ-900s
Aviation Daily
05/23/2005, page 03
Steven Lott
The merged America West and US Airways plan to trim seat capacity about 10%, with a significant portion coming from US Airways' transcontinental network and the remainder from frequency cuts in both airlines' systems, The DAILY has learned.
Executives on Friday shed some light on the fleet and network plan for the merged carrier, which it hopes will generate as much as $400 million a year after the integration is complete. The combined airline's fleet will drop by about 60 aircraft from about 417 planes to a mainline operation of 361 planes (see detailed fleet and network table, Pages 7-8). Most of the fleet cuts will come from US Airways, as the airline expects to return 25 more planes to the lessor by yearend 2006, on top of the 46 planes it already announced would be cut.
Excluding the 25 planes leaving the US Airways fleet, executives told analysts Friday of their plan to cut the remaining 35 planes from the US Airways and America West. Of the 35 planes, 10 will come from America West and 25 from US Airways. About two-thirds of the 35 planes will be Boeing 737s and one-third will be Airbus narrowbodies.
The merged airline will eventually drop the 10 767-200s flying internationally for US Airways, as it plans to operate only Airbus A330s across the Atlantic, to be replaced in 2011 with A350s. Also figured into the tally are 13 more A320 family deliveries previously ordered by America West. America West deferred its other Airbus orders by about two years.
One of the biggest schedule changes will come in the transcontinental network. Scott Kirby, America West executive VP-marketing and sales, plans to cut US Airways' transcon routes to half the number operated last summer. Through the due diligence process, Kirby reported that US Airways' east-west routes have been a "significant loss-making entity in recent history." America West will do its part by dropping the remaining non-hub transcon routes, such as New York-Los Angeles.
The strategy is to focus on mostly local coast-to-coast traffic instead of fighting for low-fare connecting, transcon traffic. "We want to size the airline right for today's environment," said CEO Doug Parker. He sees no more significant cuts in US Airways' Charlotte, Pittsburgh and Philadelphia hubs.
The rest of the capacity cuts will be spread throughout the system from reduced frequencies and markets. The merged airline also will make some changes in its regional feeder network. There are now 38 CRJ-900s flying for America West, mainly on the West Coast, but 18 of the planes will move to the East Coast to replace some US Airways 737 flying. The 57 US Airways Dash 8 turboprops will keep flying for the merged airline, as Kirby said they are currently profitable and offer a lot of flexibility.
US Airways previously negotiated a deal to sell its MidAtlantic unit to Republic Airways, and Kirby expects that deal to go through, but nothing is final. As part of Air Wisconsin's $125 million equity commitment to US Airways, the regional carrier will replace Mesa Air flying for US Airways. Mesa, however, is expected to fly for the merged carrier under its standing contract with America West. -SL
Aviation Daily
05/23/2005, page 03
Steven Lott
The merged America West and US Airways plan to trim seat capacity about 10%, with a significant portion coming from US Airways' transcontinental network and the remainder from frequency cuts in both airlines' systems, The DAILY has learned.
Executives on Friday shed some light on the fleet and network plan for the merged carrier, which it hopes will generate as much as $400 million a year after the integration is complete. The combined airline's fleet will drop by about 60 aircraft from about 417 planes to a mainline operation of 361 planes (see detailed fleet and network table, Pages 7-8). Most of the fleet cuts will come from US Airways, as the airline expects to return 25 more planes to the lessor by yearend 2006, on top of the 46 planes it already announced would be cut.
Excluding the 25 planes leaving the US Airways fleet, executives told analysts Friday of their plan to cut the remaining 35 planes from the US Airways and America West. Of the 35 planes, 10 will come from America West and 25 from US Airways. About two-thirds of the 35 planes will be Boeing 737s and one-third will be Airbus narrowbodies.
The merged airline will eventually drop the 10 767-200s flying internationally for US Airways, as it plans to operate only Airbus A330s across the Atlantic, to be replaced in 2011 with A350s. Also figured into the tally are 13 more A320 family deliveries previously ordered by America West. America West deferred its other Airbus orders by about two years.
One of the biggest schedule changes will come in the transcontinental network. Scott Kirby, America West executive VP-marketing and sales, plans to cut US Airways' transcon routes to half the number operated last summer. Through the due diligence process, Kirby reported that US Airways' east-west routes have been a "significant loss-making entity in recent history." America West will do its part by dropping the remaining non-hub transcon routes, such as New York-Los Angeles.
The strategy is to focus on mostly local coast-to-coast traffic instead of fighting for low-fare connecting, transcon traffic. "We want to size the airline right for today's environment," said CEO Doug Parker. He sees no more significant cuts in US Airways' Charlotte, Pittsburgh and Philadelphia hubs.
The rest of the capacity cuts will be spread throughout the system from reduced frequencies and markets. The merged airline also will make some changes in its regional feeder network. There are now 38 CRJ-900s flying for America West, mainly on the West Coast, but 18 of the planes will move to the East Coast to replace some US Airways 737 flying. The 57 US Airways Dash 8 turboprops will keep flying for the merged airline, as Kirby said they are currently profitable and offer a lot of flexibility.
US Airways previously negotiated a deal to sell its MidAtlantic unit to Republic Airways, and Kirby expects that deal to go through, but nothing is final. As part of Air Wisconsin's $125 million equity commitment to US Airways, the regional carrier will replace Mesa Air flying for US Airways. Mesa, however, is expected to fly for the merged carrier under its standing contract with America West. -SL
Looks as though we at MDA are getting the shaft. From the conf. call it sounds like Parker said that the "deal", meaning Wex/Rep and the 170's is still a go.
With that being said some guys (not me) around here think it will be a "change of control" and we (MDA guys) will go with the deal seniority and all bla bla bla.
Having been involved in a situation like this before (ALG to PDT situation), I feel that sometime this summer that we at MDA will see 2 or 3 planes per month leave and go to Rep/Wex. Thus MDA will furlough 20 or 30 of us at a time until we are no longer. I’m sure we will be offered positions at the bottom of Rep for starting pay. At the same time we MDA guys will go on furlough status with airways but everyone on furlough status will be shafted in the AWA deal thus once again we see the short end of the stick.
Also for us CEL guys at MDA it looks as though we will not be able to go back to PDT (unless we reapply, get hired and start over again).
At best it looks like an MDA pilot can look forward to a position at the bottom of CHQ, the street or starting over again somewhere else.
With that being said some guys (not me) around here think it will be a "change of control" and we (MDA guys) will go with the deal seniority and all bla bla bla.
Having been involved in a situation like this before (ALG to PDT situation), I feel that sometime this summer that we at MDA will see 2 or 3 planes per month leave and go to Rep/Wex. Thus MDA will furlough 20 or 30 of us at a time until we are no longer. I’m sure we will be offered positions at the bottom of Rep for starting pay. At the same time we MDA guys will go on furlough status with airways but everyone on furlough status will be shafted in the AWA deal thus once again we see the short end of the stick.
Also for us CEL guys at MDA it looks as though we will not be able to go back to PDT (unless we reapply, get hired and start over again).
At best it looks like an MDA pilot can look forward to a position at the bottom of CHQ, the street or starting over again somewhere else.
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generaltso said:
jaybird said:
Havn't most of the U J4J guys already either turned down, or accepted a position in the program...Isn't that it? Also, havn't most of them turned down the offers from CHQ for J4J when it was for the 145? Do they have to offer the program again, once it was turned down?
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The current J4J agreement at CHQ/Republic only applies to a limited number of 145 aircraft. It is my understanding that a new J4J vote would have to be voted on by the pilot group. I don't see it passing now that the CHQ pilots own all the Republic Airways Holdings flying. I see a staple or pref hiring for any MDA pilots coming over. Remember the option to transfer EMB170 aircraft is an Airways option, not a done deal.
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