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beechcowboy said:700 furloughs, well aren't you a ball of joy. This is extremely presumptious of you. First, none of us know why CAL mgmt made the decision they made. XJT offered up some very cost effective, risk sharing oriented deals to CAL... CAL did not want any part of it. I was privy to some of these details, and they were very fair. I can only assume that diversification was CAL's ultimate goal from start. There was very little loyalty to the carrier that has done so well for them in the past and present, and this is what I find most disheartening. I think most Jet Linker's would agree. I honestly don't believe that we ever were going to win the CAL flying for the 69 a/c capacity. It was, in essence, and exercise in futility. Finally, because I was privy to some of the specifics in our CPA proposals, I can also tell you that there are multiple deals being played out in the background as we speak. Announcements are pending final closure of said deals. What does this mean for all of us at XJT? Well, I am optomistic that we will finally achieve diversification in our codeshare, open ourselves up to new growth that we wouldn't have had we stayed exclusively with CAL, and eventually (time frame to be determined) introduce a different a/c into our fleet. All of this is, for lack of a better word, uncomfortable, because all that XJT has ever known is CAL. I feel uncomfortable, even with the inside knowledge that our future looks very promising. It still gives you pause and makes you think about how difficult it is to protect a decent quality of life in this industry (both financially and emotionally). As far as furloughs, I don't think you have a clue about what you are talking about. You just want to stir up discontent. You don't see mainline CAL, United, US Air, Delta, etc. pilots on here bashing each other and making rediculous presumptions. For all of you on this board who bash, berate, and ask stupid questions like who's plane is better... for your sake and others, grow up. Do you really think anyone is taking you seriously? For all of us in the regional piloting ranks, start acting like a professional or get out of the industry.
Dave Benjamin said:Maybe your thread should be titled "capitalism sucks." CHQ pilots are flying under a union negotiated contract and did not take any concessions to obtain XJet flying. Your complaint would be better directed to CO managment rather than the pilots of CHQ. When will guys like you figure out that pilots do not bid on the flying? Pilot groups do not calculate profit margins and negotiate codeshares or fee for departure flying. That's all done by managment not pilots. CO, like many other airlines wants to diversify their feed arrangments and get away from having most of their eggs in the ExpressJet basket. Noone at CHQ is a scab in any sense of the word. Here's something else to consider. How do you feel about flying routes that could have been served by mainline Continental pilots? Does that make you a scab?
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I think you owe the CHQ guys an apology for throwing the scab word around so loosely.
If you're one of the ones facing furlough best of luck in your future endeavors.
beechcowboy said:700 furloughs, well aren't you a ball of joy. This is extremely presumptious of you. First, none of us know why CAL mgmt made the decision they made. XJT offered up some very cost effective, risk sharing oriented deals to CAL... CAL did not want any part of it. I was privy to some of these details, and they were very fair. I can only assume that diversification was CAL's ultimate goal from start. There was very little loyalty to the carrier that has done so well for them in the past and present, and this is what I find most disheartening. I think most Jet Linker's would agree. I honestly don't believe that we ever were going to win the CAL flying for the 69 a/c capacity. It was, in essence, and exercise in futility. Finally, because I was privy to some of the specifics in our CPA proposals, I can also tell you that there are multiple deals being played out in the background as we speak. Announcements are pending final closure of said deals. What does this mean for all of us at XJT? Well, I am optomistic that we will finally achieve diversification in our codeshare, open ourselves up to new growth that we wouldn't have had we stayed exclusively with CAL, and eventually (time frame to be determined) introduce a different a/c into our fleet. All of this is, for lack of a better word, uncomfortable, because all that XJT has ever known is CAL. I feel uncomfortable, even with the inside knowledge that our future looks very promising. It still gives you pause and makes you think about how difficult it is to protect a decent quality of life in this industry (both financially and emotionally). As far as furloughs, I don't think you have a clue about what you are talking about. You just want to stir up discontent. You don't see mainline CAL, United, US Air, Delta, etc. pilots on here bashing each other and making rediculous presumptions.