CHQ resign senority #

[freeflyer14]

How about getting off the computer, turning around to your girlfriend / wife sitting on the couch rolling her eyes because all of your home time is spent talking about airplanes or airlines, and giving her a kiss, before your neighbor who is home EVERY SINGLE NIGHT does.

wow, the concept of sarcasm isn't exactly easy for you to grasp is it?

 

[AFELLOWAVIATOR]

. I have the flexibility to switch my schedule at my whim up until 12 hours before my start time.

I know a lot of pilots at a lot of airlines and none of them can do as you describe above. I am impressed.
So all you do is call some one or log on to a computer, and as long as your more than 12 out, "at your whim" , you can change your schedule?

 

[AFELLOWAVIATOR]

How's that MCO base at Cmr working out? How are the ASA guys doing at DFW?

Some how I knew one of you children would make that comment.

Comair has had ONE base closure in 27 years. ASA about the same.

I would suggest you think a little before you type dumarss..

 

[I.P. Freley]

The hourly pay IS NOT WHAT MYSELF OR ANY OTHER XJT PILOT WANTED. The other 180 pages of the contract are very good improvements and I would be willing to put it toe to toe with any other "regional" contract. I know pilots at most regionals, including several at CHQ. They are all GREAT guys. They enjoy working for their company. They didn't lower the bar, they made improvements in many sections of their previous contract. Everybody get over it. You get what you negotiate. That's it. Now, back to my ME TIME!

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Dude... You missed the point. I don't think y'all at XJ lowered the bar. I don't think CHQ lowered the bar.

My point was... Anyone who claims that EITHER of you lowered the bar is full of guano.

 

[boxjockey]

So all you do is call some one or log on to a computer, and as long as your more than 12 out, "at your whim" , you can change your schedule?

More or less. We have open time shopping on our computer system. We can trade for any trip on there up until 12 hours prior to show time. The caveat is there must be reserve coverage for the trip we are trading away. Most months this is fairly easy, but Nov and Dec are worse because of the holidays.

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[MesaFlying]

Okay, I guess I'll ask... Slightly off-topic...

Why is it that CHQ pilots are "spineless" and ExpressJet pilots are to be congratulated on a job well done? Didn't both of these groups (hang on, here it comes, my favorite idiotic phrase in aviation...) lower the bar by not getting Comair-plus?

On second thought, maybe I shouldn't ask. I will probably find the answer to be a smoke screen.

What makes the pilot group, and the teamsters spineless isn't the contract, it's the lack of willingness to enforce the contract. The paper is worthless if no-one is willing to back it up. Management is more than willing to violate the contract as a matter of standard practice. 'Don't like it, file a grievance' is the order of the day. It may be the same way at XJET, I just don't know.

A contract is much more than just pay rates. Of course, you could always just repeat after me......."Beats flight instructing", "I'm just happy to have a job.", "We really don't work all that hard", "I'd fly this (insert favorite jet here) for free."

It isn't CHQ or XJET or Air Whiskey, or even Mesa that's lowering the bar. The bar is being lowered by pilots as a whole, at all employers, that are willing to work for next to nothing and put up with BS work rules in order to keep flying.

 

[Jabwmu]

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Originally Posted by FDJ2
How's that MCO base at Cmr working out? How are the ASA guys doing at DFW?

Some how I knew one of you children would make that comment.

Comair has had ONE base closure in 27 years. ASA about the same.

I would suggest you think a little before you type dumarss..

FDJ2 seems to have military/civilian, DC-8, MD88, B737, and B767 experience. I
don't know many "children" with that kind of experience.

 

[BoilerUP]

What makes the pilot group, and the teamsters spineless isn't the contract, it's the lack of willingness to enforce the contract. The paper is worthless if no-one is willing to back it up. Management is more than willing to violate the contract as a matter of standard practice. 'Don't like it, file a grievance' is the order of the day.

Do you really fly for Mesa? Perhaps you need to go visit www.mesalounge.com, because all I've been reading there is how the company violates the contract as SOP. Hell, even Airline Pilot had a blurb about it in the most recent magazine...

 

[FlyingSig]

the real gods (Delta pilots).

Finally somebody who gets it

 

[FDJ2]

Some how I knew one of you children would make that comment.

Comair has had ONE base closure in 27 years. ASA about the same.

I would suggest you think a little before you type dumarss..

AFELLOW, how many bases does CMR have? One you say, wouldn't that one base closing comprise 50% of all your bases closed in the last couple of years? Dumarss, you should take your own advice.

Here's what you stated concerning Chq bases:

AFELLOW-My favorite part is the 10 bases. I have talked to several of our pilots who came from airlines like chq and eagle. Get the kids in school, buy a house and then the base closes or down sizes. Want to upgrade? Move to diff base. Not a very good way to run an airline.

Now excuse me, but who are you to insinuate that a Chq pilot's base stability is lacking when half of your bases have been shut down in the last couple of years and ASA has suffered a similar fate? Dumarss.

 

[sweptback]

FDJ2, I hate to jump in your little catfight with AFA... but how many Delta bases have you guys closed in the past few years? It's not a contest, you know.

I'd rather have my eggs in the ATL or CVG basket, rather than some podunk station like GSO or LEX that could probably close at will. Let me put it this way, if the ATL or CVG crew bases were to close, I think I'd have a lot more issues than wondering where to move my family.

 

[Afixedwing]

StuckInASaab,
your avatar freaks me out.

 

[FDJ2]

FDJ2, I hate to jump in your little catfight with AFA... but how many Delta bases have you guys closed in the past few years?

DAL has closed 2 out of 7 bases since 9/11. Hardly 50% and even if it were, I wasn't the one disparaging the stability of Chq bases, but simply pointing out the obvious to AFELLOW.

 

[sweptback]

DAL has closed 2 out of 7 bases since 9/11. Hardly 50% and even if it were, I wasn't the one disparaging the stability of Chq bases, but simply pointing out the obvious to AFELLOW.

1 of 2 bases closed in 27 years (if AFA's numbers are accurate) is a lot better to me than 2 out of 7 in 3 years. But hey, to each his own, right?

Any CHQ guys care to chime in (not being a smarta$$ I swear, just curious) about how many bases you have closed in say, the last 5 years? I think BOS closed when you opened BUF and GSO not too long ago.

 

[Old Jballer]

PHL just closed to open FLL

That's the biggest problem at this company to many bases senoirity means nothing.