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CHQ E170s - When Do They Start Scheduled Service?

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The Air Willy/146 issue is VERY different. These aircraft are operated under an 'exclusion' in the scope clause. We are limited to 18 aircraft ONLY, are limited to SPECIFIC TAIL NUMBERS (we can't just replace one without UAL MEC approval), and we have been operating these aircraft for many years prior to the growth that UAX has been seeing. The only reason that we still operate these birds is ASE and EGE. Its the only machine out there that can do both the circle and the missed without hitting the rocks.
 
cargojunkie said:
im disappointed that chq is turning into a mesa. You fly this airplane so cheap that others will have to follow. Chq and mesa guys have to know how much every airline hates them.
Is this a CFI talking, a freight doggie talking, or a newbie FO at another airline talking? Or "other"?
 
what an ignorant comment by cargojunkie. "every airline must hate CHQ, Mesa......." Grow Up. This crap reminds me of high school.
 
He's pissed, he couldn't get hired.
 
Anyway........

Anyone know what the 170 is like from the cockpit door forward? Is it a performer or lacking in power like other RJ's, the CRJ 700 excluded.
Usual MACH number, usual range of altitudes, how does it do at the higher elevation places?

Anything has to be better than the juvenile name calling
 
E-170 Tech Specs

Russ said:
Anyway........

Anyone know what the 170 is like from the cockpit door forward? Is it a performer or lacking in power like other RJ's, the CRJ 700 excluded.
Usual MACH number, usual range of altitudes, how does it do at the higher elevation places?

Anything has to be better than the juvenile name calling


http://www.republicairlines.com/aircraft.asp

Go through the pages. Tech Numbers are on last page...http://master.mx-targeting.com/mx/s...097191716867&rcntr=8&&cookie3=1;1098168320;32
 
Russ said:
Anyway........

Anyone know what the 170 is like from the cockpit door forward? Is it a performer or lacking in power like other RJ's, the CRJ 700 excluded.
Usual MACH number, usual range of altitudes, how does it do at the higher elevation places?

Anything has to be better than the juvenile name calling
I flew in it as a pax recently and it does not lack in power. I liked the acceleration and the flight deck looked nice and comfortable. I really was impressed with the automation - I think it is a Primus Epic system. It retains the "big airplane" feel of a larger aircraft - feels like an A319. JetBlue's larger 190s should be great to fly too - although the pay sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
On Your Six said:
I flew in it as a pax recently and it does not lack in power. I liked the acceleration and the flight deck looked nice and comfortable. I really was impressed with the automation - I think it is a Primus Epic system. It retains the "big airplane" feel of a larger aircraft - feels like an A319. JetBlue's larger 190s should be great to fly too - although the pay sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, because taking a casual glance at the flight deck (look at all those pretty screens!) tells you a lot about the automation features.
 
Regional Jet my a$$. Look at its range map on page two of this link. Notice that it includes the ENTIRE US and central America from Chicago. I had a chance to get inside one of the CHQ aircraft the other day and it is indeed very nice and will be well liked by the pax once the usual new fleet issues are taken care of. Too bad about the pay though...

http://www.republicairlines.com/aircraft.asp
 
United used to own Air Wisconsin and when they sold the company in '91, I believe it was, they sold the Bae-146's as well. If they had wanted to keep them, I'm sure they could have.
 
None taken...

Nimitz and others,

No offense taken. Until the CHQ contract becomes amendable, might as well be positive about the chances of a better one, right? It's a big if . . . and who knows what fuel prices and industry outlook will be in 3 years.

Cargojunkie, go back to the sandbox. I'm not on here to bash Mesa, Jetblue or anyone else, for that matter. Grow some cajones and tell us what "cargo" airline you work for instead of hiding behind a pseudonym. Or, like somebody already pointed out, you're probably a little ticked about an interview bust?

The point I was trying to make in my earlier post was that the perception, either by management or pilots, that anything/everything "Embraer" is a regional jet is detrimental to us ever receiving compensation approaching that of our colleagues at the "majors." How far pay will erode, how many concessions will be given...well, I guess that's to be determined. To use yet another cliche, the pendulum has to swing the other way, it's just a question of when.

And given the choice, I'd really rather _not_ see E-190's at CHQ or any other regional - just so everyone's clear on that.

Clear as mud?

-brew3
 
Brew, sorry to burst your bubble but in yesterday's Republic Airways Holding Webcast (Tuesday Oct.19), Bryan Bedford mentioned at least twice that Republic Airlines will not only have the 170 but also the 190.
I guess we'll see what happens.
 
Hmmmmm! RJ's for Shuttle America?

Also, in that webcast Bedford said that the 170's and 190's would only be allowed to be on Chq's certificate until September of next year. They are still planning on those airplanes being moved to Republic's certificate. The part that I don't understand yet is that Republic's CEO is now Shuttle America's CEO. Figure that one out!

Hmmmmm! RJ's for Shuttle America?
 
Hmmmmm! RJ's for Shuttle America?

Also, in that webcast Bedford said that the 170's and 190's would only be allowed to be on Chq's certificate until September of next year. They are still planning on those airplanes being moved to Republic's certificate. The part that I don't understand yet is that Republic's CEO is now Shuttle America's CEO. Figure that one out!

Hmmmmm! RJ's for Shuttle America?
 
parrothead said:
Hmmmmm! RJ's for Shuttle America?
Yes! Any day now! In fact, I saw a gigantic model of the 170 sitting on the new CEO's desk, and he was rubbing his hands together and chuckling and giggling, and I overheard him saying:

"Buaaahahahahahahaha! These puppies are coming here to my new posting! Buaaaaaahahahahahaha! Take THAT, Bedford!!"
 
E170 started in service today. We have until next September to move them over to the Republic certificate in order to satisfy the temporary Delta scope agreement. According to Bedford during the 3rd quarter conference call, this should occur in the next couple of months.
 

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