Chq bases and hiring outlook

[DOGTIRED]

I know Chq changes the bases around quite often, but what's going on at GSO? Is it growing, closing, senior or junior? Are they hiring only for the 170 or both types? What is the average days off? Any info would be great. I was thinking about interviewing, but would really like to be based at home. I've done the commuting thing before. Thanks

 

[Turtlesfly]

ewr? .

 

[Chicken Taco]

Dog,
As of May bids GSO looks like this:
32 crews, size has been static for a while.
Junior CA is 6-5-2003, junior FO is 8-30-05. This doesn't look like one that you could hold out of training right now, but that, of course, is all subject to change.
We are hiring into both types right now, GSO is a 145 base only. The minimum days off are 11/12 for reserve and lineholders, average for lineholders is 13-15 depending on the productivity of your base. Let me knoe if I can help out more..

..CT

 

[Boris Badenov]

Asked and generally answered on a different thread, but does anyone have similar numbers (# crews, junior hire dates) for SDF? Thanks.

Boris.

 

[kntrdr]

Asked and generally answered on a different thread, but does anyone have similar numbers (# crews, junior hire dates) for SDF? Thanks.

Boris.

SDF has 56 crews. Anticipated to grow significantly if the CO flying comes. 4/19/04 is the most junior captain. 2/22/06 is the most junior FO. I believe that was held as a newhire.

 

[DOGTIRED]

Thanks CT.
Is shuttle side 170's for us airways? Are these the j4j guys? Who does republic fly for? Are they 170's only and what carriers? Can a new hire be placed at any of the three divisions?

 

[Crzipilot]

Rep. is the US Airways side, Shuttle, is UAL I guess....or whomever they are flying those things for...

 

[SkyBoy1981]

SDF has 56 crews. Anticipated to grow significantly if the CO flying comes. 4/19/04 is the most junior captain. 2/22/06 is the most junior FO. I believe that was held as a newhire.

Did you leave COEX to go to CHQ? Just curious...

 

[Boris Badenov]

Thanks again for making this a useful resource rather than just another place to bicker on the internet.

 

[kntrdr]

Did you leave COEX to go to CHQ? Just curious...

Furloughed after 9/11.

 

[B727FA]

Rep. is the US Airways side, Shuttle, is UAL I guess....or whomever they are flying those things for...

The 145/140/135 fly for UA/US/DL/AA and poss CO. Bases are: IND/SDF/STL/CMH/BUF/LGA/GSO/LGA/MCO and they are operated by Chautauqua.

The 170 for US is operated by Republic Airlines and the bases are: PIT/IND/DCA.

The 170 for DL/UA is operated by Shuttle America and the bases are: ORD/IND/CMH.

 

[n6604f]

Heard a rumor CHQ is planning on hiring captains off the street. True or not true???

 

[SXMp2c]

Heard a rumor CHQ is planning on hiring captains off the street. True or not true???

Not true. No reason to.

 

[Axel]

Not true. No reason to.

And at this point contractually prohibited. The Company can't hire a street captain unless
there are no qualified pilots bidding for the slot.

 

[Hawker800]

Would a person 55yrs old stand a chance of being hired at CHQ? That 170 looks like fun. Thanks.

 

[Chicken Taco]

Would a person 55yrs old stand a chance of being hired at CHQ? That 170 looks like fun. Thanks.

Absolutely. We've had a few retirements lately, and have always had some "nontraditional" new-hires in classes. The company has been burned on some of the little kids they've hired, and has been looking for more qualified/experienced lately. The game for a while was to get the lowest-time guys so they could pull lots of crap over on them because they didn't know better, but fortunately we're growing out of that phase..

..CT

 

[BoilerUP]

Just curious...but would you care to elaborate on how the company got burned by some of the "little kids" they hired?

 

[sleddriver77]

Just curious...but would you care to elaborate on how the company got burned by some of the "little kids" they hired?

Note the dead-giveaway "Purduebee" username of the guy asking this....

I think you know who he means.

 

[8HourPilot]

Ha Boiler, thems fighting words!!!

 

[Flyer1015]

The 145/140/135 fly for UA/US/DL/AA and poss CO. Bases are: IND/SDF/STL/CMH/BUF/LGA/GSO/LGA/MCO and they are operated by Chautauqua.

The 170 for US is operated by Republic Airlines and the bases are: PIT/IND/DCA.

The 170 for DL/UA is operated by Shuttle America and the bases are: ORD/IND/CMH.

Just to clarify, it's all one seniority list, correct?

If you're interview and are hired by Chautauqua and get the E145/140/135 out of LGA, can you later bid E170 out of PIT under Republic Airlines ?

 

[SlapShot]

Yes it is all one seniority list.

You can only bid over if it involves a pay raise. So since Chautuplica pays the same for all the FO seats, you would have to wait until you could hold a captain seat on the appropriate certificate.

 

[Chicken Taco]

Just curious...but would you care to elaborate on how the company got burned by some of the "little kids" they hired?

Failures to complete training due to the inability to take stuff seriously. Showing up for orals without bothering to memorize stuff like limitations and memory items. Consistently being 10 minutes late and getting caught lieing to scheduling when called. Guys that have needed 45-50 hours of IOE and still don't get it. Busted upgrades due to total lack of SA, decision making abilities, and capability to actually think rather than follow a procedure. Basically, some guys are missing life skills and maturity that can't be replaced with a $100,000 education and pretty resume.

I'm not knocking ALL the young guys. I was only 22 when I got hired (NOT a Purduebee.) A lot of the young guys are great, and I'd fly with them any day. I'm just saying that as a senior guy who has seen a lot here the common thread among problem FO's is usually lack of experience coupled with a gigantic ego and the unwillingness to listen to experience. The older newbies (25 plus, and/or not on their first real job out of college) usually want to learn, and recognize that they don't know everything. I really couldn't give two farts about backpacks, wearing of hats, etc. I just want my FO to be a guy who is going to be safe, be able to back me up, and not require babysitting if he has more than 100 hours or so in type..

..CT

 

[BoilerUP]

Just asking an honest question. I may have attended Purdue, but I hope I don't have this "Purduebee" attitude many people speak of. Its amazing to me that ANYBODY would blow off 121 training, especially if given a golden ticket of having prefferential hiring at low total time. Its obvious that education can't learn you any common sense...

Thanks for the info!

 

[SizzleChest]

It was even worse with those people that had interned at CHQ and figured they were "owed" a job at RAH. I tried to help some but they found other gigs they liked better. Some just walked around like they owed the place and pushed to get any kind of gouge they could and use it to learn by rote. When they got above 10,000' they didn't know they could fly fast. Conversely, they didn't slow down going below 10,000' or would go whipping into the pattern at the dest. and still be doing 250KTS.... don't forget Class D speed limits.... hadn't thot about that one latley huh!

 

[Dubya]

I'm trying to train these wonder blunders at Illinois now. I don't have a cool nickname for these U of I slackers like "purdubees"...so i'll open it up for suggestions. Some of these kids...I tell 'ya...pow...right in the kisser.

Taco...check your PM.

W

 

[void]

A friend of mine that I used to instruct with used to mock people with attitudes like that by calling them : "Big Iron Pilots", with a lot of sarcasm in his voice. He'd usually then start asking them a bunch of questions that they couldn't answer to put them in there place. My favorate that I used as well was if they were late and they would start to explain an excuse, he'd just say: "Hey big iron pilot, you're fired. " He'd lay into them about how they think they couldn't get away with stuff like that in the real world so why should they be able to get away with it in a flight training program.

 

[WAZUP]

My favorate that I used as well was if they were late and they would start to explain an excuse, he'd just say: "Hey big iron pilot, you're fired. " He'd lay into them about how they think they couldn't get away with stuff like that in the real world so why should they be able to get away with it in a flight training program.[/quote]

I like that one I am waiting for my student right now and he is 45min late. I am going to use that. Oh and the clock has already started so I will get paid. I am getting sick of this!

 

[flyer172r]

Just asking an honest question. I may have attended Purdue, but I hope I don't have this "Purduebee" attitude many people speak of. Its amazing to me that ANYBODY would blow off 121 training, especially if given a golden ticket of having prefferential hiring at low total time. Its obvious that education can't learn you any common sense...

Thanks for the info!

Dude, you should know better than anyone that you can't ask honest questions on flightinfo!

And Dubya, I like "wonder blunders". I'd say keep using that one.